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    Jordan made 73 fgas in 6 le clinchers
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    Kobe= never cracked 41 in the finals....ever...ever....

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    10.) Wade lit the Celtics up....
    Wade- 62-110 .564% in 5 games
    Kobe- 66-163 .400% in 7 games
    .Wade on the Lakers=historic team

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    only finals MVP with no games shooting 50%....and he did it twice

    #MVPau

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    Jordan made 73 fgas in 6 le clinchers
    Kobe made 38 fgs in 5 le clinchers
    Kobe= never cracked 41 in the finals....ever...ever....
    10.) Wade lit the Celtics up....
    Wade- 62-110 .564% in 5 games
    Kobe- 66-163 .400% in 7 games
    .Wade on the Lakers=historic team
    only finals MVP with no games shooting 50%....and he did it twice

    #MVPau
    Boiled down:::Tim Duncan is gay.

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    thinks about these facts carefully for a minute...Kobe fans were raving about his regular season gamewinners.....even though he is 26-89 in his career on gamewinners...Kobe 0-2 in the playoffs on gamewinners,and each time gasol or artest put it right back in

    #MVPau

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    Shaq is #1 in playoff history in offensive rbs....THANKS KOBE...Gasol grabbed 9 offensive rbs to win it all...
    Kobes misses are padding Shaq/Gasols offensive rebound stats

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    Michael Wilborn of ESPN said that Kobe Bryant can have bad shooting games and still win, while Lebron James can't have the bad shooting night and still win, implying that Kobe is still being spoonfed with the 2 Very Good Post Up Offensive Players in Andrew Bynum, when he's not hurt and of course, Pau Gasol....so since Kobe Bryant is receiving a luxurious team again, he's leadership role has been compromised and being a scavenger of the team and taking the goods Pau and Drew in terms of their honorable awards that does not belong to Kobe.

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    But… looking at the two players and their usage rates (basketball-reference.com), Bryant is the only Laker this year who uses significantly more than his share of the Lakers’ possessions. Gasol’s usage rate is around 20% – average. Yet, Gasol has been the Lakers’ most efficient player all season, and it’s possible to argue that, statistically, he’s been their most valuable player as well.

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    Think about it…Pau Gasol is averaging 18.6 points and 10.6 rebounds per game in the playoffs, and is shooting a scintillating 58.1% from the field. One of the best gauges of overall offensive efficiency is points per shot (PPS), which is simply the total points scored divided by the number of field goal attempts. Gasol’s PPS is 1.54, which is outstanding.
    Then you have Kobe. Sure, he’s averaging 30.1 points, but he has to shoot almost 23 shots per game to get those points. (He’s also averaging 5.4 assists and 5.1 rebounds.) His PPS is 1.33, which is still good, but is almost 14% less than Gasol’s.

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    Against the Magic, Gasol has made 23 of his 37 field goal attempts (62%). Against the Nuggets, he shot 63% from the field. The Spaniard is on such a roll right now that the Lakers should be feeding him the ball until the Magic find a way to stop him. Anytime Andrew Bynum is in the game, Rashard Lewis has to cover Gasol, and he’s no match for Pau in the post. Heck, even when Bynum goes to the bench, Gasol is scoring at will on Dwight Howard, the 2009 Defensive Player of the Year. Gasol was 9 of 11 from the field in Game 3, yet it was Kobe who took the most shots (11 of 25, 44%), even when he was clearly struggling down the stretch.

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    This is not to distort the legacy of Kobe Bryant, Kobe is doing a good job of doing that himself. For Kobe to average 27.0 Field Goal Attempts Per Game to average 32 Points Per Game, by shooting at 42.9%[43%] from the field and capture the MVP trophy in comparisons to Pau Gasol averages 18.6 Points Per game shooting at 61.4% from the Field and averages 12.0 Field Goal Attempts Per Game against the Orlando Magic in the 2009 NBA Finals. Not to mention he also grabbed 9.2 Rebounds Per Game, and 1.8 Blocks Per Game.

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    thinks about these facts carefully for a minute...Kobe fans were raving about his regular season gamewinners.....even though he is 26-89 in his career on gamewinners...Kobe 0-2 in the playoffs on gamewinners,and each time gasol or artest put it right back in

    #MVPau
    Shaq is #1 in playoff history in offensive rbs....THANKS KOBE...Gasol grabbed 9 offensive rbs to win it all...
    Kobes misses are padding Shaq/Gasols offensive rebound stats
    Michael Wilborn of ESPN said that Kobe Bryant can have bad shooting games and still win, while Lebron James can't have the bad shooting night and still win, implying that Kobe is still being spoonfed with the 2 Very Good Post Up Offensive Players in Andrew Bynum, when he's not hurt and of course, Pau Gasol....so since Kobe Bryant is receiving a luxurious team again, he's leadership role has been compromised and being a scavenger of the team and taking the goods Pau and Drew in terms of their honorable awards that does not belong to Kobe.
    But… looking at the two players and their usage rates (basketball-reference.com), Bryant is the only Laker this year who uses significantly more than his share of the Lakers’ possessions. Gasol’s usage rate is around 20% – average. Yet, Gasol has been the Lakers’ most efficient player all season, and it’s possible to argue that, statistically, he’s been their most valuable player as well.
    Think about it…Pau Gasol is averaging 18.6 points and 10.6 rebounds per game in the playoffs, and is shooting a scintillating 58.1% from the field. One of the best gauges of overall offensive efficiency is points per shot (PPS), which is simply the total points scored divided by the number of field goal attempts. Gasol’s PPS is 1.54, which is outstanding.
    Then you have Kobe. Sure, he’s averaging 30.1 points, but he has to shoot almost 23 shots per game to get those points. (He’s also averaging 5.4 assists and 5.1 rebounds.) His PPS is 1.33, which is still good, but is almost 14% less than Gasol’s.
    Against the Magic, Gasol has made 23 of his 37 field goal attempts (62%). Against the Nuggets, he shot 63% from the field. The Spaniard is on such a roll right now that the Lakers should be feeding him the ball until the Magic find a way to stop him. Anytime Andrew Bynum is in the game, Rashard Lewis has to cover Gasol, and he’s no match for Pau in the post. Heck, even when Bynum goes to the bench, Gasol is scoring at will on Dwight Howard, the 2009 Defensive Player of the Year. Gasol was 9 of 11 from the field in Game 3, yet it was Kobe who took the most shots (11 of 25, 44%), even when he was clearly struggling down the stretch.
    This is not to distort the legacy of Kobe Bryant, Kobe is doing a good job of doing that himself. For Kobe to average 27.0 Field Goal Attempts Per Game to average 32 Points Per Game, by shooting at 42.9%[43%] from the field and capture the MVP trophy in comparisons to Pau Gasol averages 18.6 Points Per game shooting at 61.4% from the Field and averages 12.0 Field Goal Attempts Per Game against the Orlando Magic in the 2009 NBA Finals. Not to mention he also grabbed 9.2 Rebounds Per Game, and 1.8 Blocks Per Game.
    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

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    Gasol had better winshares than kobe with 13.9 to kobe's 12.7 in the 2008-2009 season...in about 6 games when Kobe was out for the 2009-2010 season, the Laker's Defensive Efficiency rate is at a stunning 88.5 Opponent Points Per Game and 5 out of 6 of them was against playoff teams, the lakers play better defense and there's more ball movement without Kobe...when Kobe is in the game, the lakers average 21.6 assist per game..when he's out...the lakers average 21.0 assist per game...not much of a difference huh?....

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    kobe bryant didn't even have himself a efficient series against the celtics...he only scored 28 points per game but he also averaged 24 shots per game!!! then he shot at a poor 40.5% from the field!! THAT'S GARBAGE!!! and he only averaged 4 assists per game while Pau Gasol averaged 18 points per game SHOOTING AT 48% FROM THE FIELD grabbing 11.6 rebounds per game and had 2.6 blocks per game and he had a total of 18 blocks in 7 games...tell me who's the overall efficient player??? not kobe!! it's pau gasol!!








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    Boiled down:::Tim Duncan is gay.
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    kobe since game 4 of the 2006 playoff vs the suns has been 0-4 IN GAME WINNING SITUATIONS IN THE PLAYOFFs

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    You've nary room. Tim Duncan is gay as well.

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    kobe since game 4 of the 2006 playoff vs the suns has been 0-4 IN GAME WINNING SITUATIONS IN THE PLAYOFFs
    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

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    Kobe had 5 out of 7 bad games against these celtics defense while D-Wade had 3 good games, 1 excellent game scoring 46 points shooting damn near at 70% [66%] and taking only 24 shots while Kobe took 29 Shots in Game 3 and only makes ten of them to get...29 Points?? Then he shot at only 34% from the field! In Game 7, he takes 24 shots to get 23 Points. In the past 12 NBA Finals games Kobe has never shot at 50% from the field YET!

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    Gasol had better winshares than kobe with 13.9 to kobe's 12.7 in the 2008-2009 season...in about 6 games when Kobe was out for the 2009-2010 season, the Laker's Defensive Efficiency rate is at a stunning 88.5 Opponent Points Per Game and 5 out of 6 of them was against playoff teams, the lakers play better defense and there's more ball movement without Kobe...when Kobe is in the game, the lakers average 21.6 assist per game..when he's out...the lakers average 21.0 assist per game...not much of a difference huh?....
    kobe bryant didn't even have himself a efficient series against the celtics...he only scored 28 points per game but he also averaged 24 shots per game!!! then he shot at a poor 40.5% from the field!! THAT'S GARBAGE!!! and he only averaged 4 assists per game while Pau Gasol averaged 18 points per game SHOOTING AT 48% FROM THE FIELD grabbing 11.6 rebounds per game and had 2.6 blocks per game and he had a total of 18 blocks in 7 games...tell me who's the overall efficient player??? not kobe!! it's pau gasol!!







    Kobe: 5

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    in 12 Finals games, Pau Gasol has had 7 STRAIGHT GAMES WHERE HE SHOT AT OVER 50% from the field! up until Game 3 vs the Celtics....


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    Gasol had better winshares than kobe with 13.9 to kobe's 12.7 in the 2008-2009 season...in about 6 games when Kobe was out for the 2009-2010 season, the Laker's Defensive Efficiency rate is at a stunning 88.5 Opponent Points Per Game and 5 out of 6 of them was against playoff teams, the lakers play better defense and there's more ball movement without Kobe...when Kobe is in the game, the lakers average 21.6 assist per game..when he's out...the lakers average 21.0 assist per game...not much of a difference huh?....
    kobe bryant didn't even have himself a efficient series against the celtics...he only scored 28 points per game but he also averaged 24 shots per game!!! then he shot at a poor 40.5% from the field!! THAT'S GARBAGE!!! and he only averaged 4 assists per game while Pau Gasol averaged 18 points per game SHOOTING AT 48% FROM THE FIELD grabbing 11.6 rebounds per game and had 2.6 blocks per game and he had a total of 18 blocks in 7 games...tell me who's the overall efficient player??? not kobe!! it's pau gasol!!







    Kobe had 5 out of 7 bad games against these celtics defense while D-Wade had 3 good games, 1 excellent game scoring 46 points shooting damn near at 70% [66%] and taking only 24 shots while Kobe took 29 Shots in Game 3 and only makes ten of them to get...29 Points?? Then he shot at only 34% from the field! In Game 7, he takes 24 shots to get 23 Points. In the past 12 NBA Finals games Kobe has never shot at 50% from the field YET!
    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

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    Pau Gasol in the 2009 NBA FINALS


    Game 1: 58.3 Percent from the field
    Game 2: 50 Percent from the field
    Game 3: 81.8 Percent from the field
    Game 4: 50 Percent from the field
    Game 5: 66.7 Percent from the field



    Pau Gasol in the 2010 NBA FINALS

    Game 1: 57.1 Percent from the field
    Game 2: 70 Percent from the field
    Game 3: 45.5 Percent from the field
    Game 4: 46.2 Percent from the field
    Game 5: 41.7 Percent from the field
    Game 6: 42.9 Percent from the field
    Game 7: 37.5 Percent from the field

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    Pau Gasol in the 2009 NBA FINALS


    Game 1: 58.3 Percent from the field
    Game 2: 50 Percent from the field
    Game 3: 81.8 Percent from the field
    Game 4: 50 Percent from the field
    Game 5: 66.7 Percent from the field



    Pau Gasol in the 2010 NBA FINALS

    Game 1: 57.1 Percent from the field
    Game 2: 70 Percent from the field
    Game 3: 45.5 Percent from the field
    Game 4: 46.2 Percent from the field
    Game 5: 41.7 Percent from the field
    Game 6: 42.9 Percent from the field
    Game 7: 37.5 Percent from the field
    Kobe: 5

    the tired old bag Duncan: 4

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