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"Those t.u. fans are so bitter for not sucking Johnny's ! If JFF doesn't go first overall, it's a sip conspiracy!"
at the bitter comment. Run first QBs don't succeed. What happened to Vick? And he was the fastest in his prime.
I mean it definitely seems bitter to be hoping for someone to fail.
why would UT fans be bitter? lmao always bevo balls in your mouth.
I really have no idea, that's the thing. I don't know why you would possibly give a about the kid one way or another if he didn't go to your school. But obviously some are.
Being a mobile QB is totally different than being a running QB. Bobby Douglass with the Bears was a running QB, he had little success in that role as far as wins go.
First thing that happens with running QB's is both backers and safeties disrespect the pass. So there they are looking to stuff the run. You cannot win in the NFL with a QB who doesn't back backer off and move safties around. A run first QB does not work. A QB who can run but uses that ability only as a way to confuse defenses with.....run or pass???....perfect! That's if the QB realizes his physical limitations, these guys don't possess the muscularity found in running backs. So it must be about getting what you can and bail.
Bobby Douglass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl71J3BL-xY
A QB talking about running over people, hahaha!
Last edited by Avante; 02-16-2014 at 01:42 PM.
No one is bitter about Manziel. An undersized run first QB should not be the number one pick.
Boom.
Michael Vick had some absolutely kick ass playoff games.
The Falcon and Eagle flameouts should not be placed on him.
Lame assed defensive backs on Eagles.
He sucks now but he had two good runs.
Did he win a ring?
Did he have ringworthy teamates?
So he didn't ring. He couldn't even stay healthy.
Would
Brady
Elway
Montana
Johny Unitas
Brett Favre
Cletus Bradshaw
Wilson
any other QB have won a le with the exact same Falcon and Eagle teams?
Was he a ringworthy quarterback?
1st fulltime year with Eagles absolutely.
ATL he by his own admission failed to study the game, relied only on monkeyball.
In that respect, maybe one of the others would have gotten ATL a Super win.
Last edited by djohn2oo8; 02-16-2014 at 06:56 PM.
The price quarterbacks pay for running the ball is fairly clearly shown in the chart. Only two quarterbacks, Steve Young and Randall Cunningham, ever posted above average QB ratings while starting as many as 75 % of their team's games after the age of 33. Only Young did it more than once. Not one of the quarterbacks listed ran the ball more than 70 times after the age of 31. Seven of the twelve never started all of their team's games after the age of 27, and only four ever did it after age 29. Only four of the twelve were effective, reliable quarterbacks more than one season past the age of 30, and all but three of the twelve were done as NFL starters by age 33.
This isn't a pretty picture for running quarterbacks. In short, they have limited shelf lives. After around age 30 or so they cannot be relied upon, and after age 33 or so they are generally done. All the extra hits take their inevitable toll on the quarterbacks' bodies.
http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/1/4/5273606/the-running-qb-conundrum
No you're changing the subject to how long do they last.
Granted, most runners don't last long.
That having been said, Vick got super close twice with pretty ty help.
ATL went in and punked playoff Green Bay in Green Bay. Which had never been done before. Also at a time when GB had pretty decent teams with Favre.
An absolute key for Johny F is going to be coaching and team. And will he listen and apply advice. Vick went monkey too often but the year after prison, the year he studied and applied the advice he was great.
How is it changing the subject when they don't last, and don't win championships?
Whether or not Johny Football can win a championship. As was brought out, subject le is incorrect. He never said he would, he said he would try. Brings up the subject at hand of is it even possible. Agree with you the window is short. Also a run-only cannot win, that is established. Johnys got to be smart about it. In addition to must be on good team with a D and coach with clues.
groundbreaking insight
do you have a website i can subscribe too?
So what you are saying is that even if a guy like Football has the right pieces around him to win, it is impossible for that team to ring simply bc Football can run?
Yes i do.
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