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    Bulls dynasty...take out MJ insert Kobe...do the bulls win 6 championships?

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    maybe with an older kobe. not the present time kobe.

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    Sure, why not...

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    I doubt it.

    I think Kobe is even more talented than MJ, but MJ was the ultimate compe or. Jordan lived to win.

    Kobe might be the best pure basketball player of all-time but he lacks the total concentration on winning. Also, Kobe will need to learn to be a decent teammate at some point in his career.

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    Here's a better question: how many rings would MJ have if he had a Shaq playing with him?

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    I think MJ is better at making his supporting cast winners also. Kobe is just trying to carry everything on his back. MJ could make his teamates better. To answer the question though I dont think the Bulls would have won six with Kobe.

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    No ing way. And basketball would be 1/2 as popular in the world today

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    I doubt it. I'm not extremly savy in baskteball mechanics, but Jordan most definatly had more skill then Kobe doe. Also, Jordan commanded more respect from the refs and his own teamates then Kobe does. Jordan was a better leader then Kobe is.

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    Kobe would have had 8. He would not have retired to play baseball for a year and a half.

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    LMAO no. OMG at this even being considered. Just wow.

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    Nope...

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    When Kobe has won one on his own then, maybe then will this conversation even be possible, but there is no way in you would ever trade Jordan in the early 90s for an '06 kobe.

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    Nope.

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    When Kobe has won one on his own then, maybe then will this conversation even be possible, but there is no way in you would ever trade Jordan in the early 90s for an '06 kobe.
    The Bulls team of the 90s was a pretty good team without Jordan. They got to the playoffs without him. The current Lakers squad with no Kobe is one of the worst teams in the NBA. The comparison and/or expectations are not fair.

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    why do you guys think shaq was the sole reason we won three rings? i dont see any rings with him and penny (btw i love u penny) nor has he won anything with that wade kid.

    all coaches are afraid to put the ball in shaq's hand when the game is on the line, cause that fat guy can't make freethrows. Hack-A-Shaq started for a reason.

    if i had pippen and the crew, i would have won quite a bit!

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    the argument with kome is that he hasnt won a ring on his own same with snaq

    drobs 71pt game > komes 81pts game

    kome can put up all the numbers he wants cose his not sniffing the playoffs this season

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    drob battles snaq for scorin le in final game, which game is better, u tell me.....kome is a one man team just like that KG in minni, you can post up all the stats u want

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    There's a reason Jordan never scored more than 69, he never had to. Unlike Kobe MJ made his team better, replace MJ w/ Kobe and Bulls win ZERO rings

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    komes team was up 20pts in the last quarter wat was he doin playin scrub minutes?
    wait he wanna be like all statpadders and statpadd

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    I think, as others have said it, Jordan made his teamates better. However he also had a better team. If they switched places, the Bulls would still win a couple rings, but the Lakers would probably win every single season, as long as Shaq and Jordan played.

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    Bulls dynasty...take out MJ insert Kobe...do the bulls win 6 championships?
    No. Kobe would win a lot of individual awards and acclaim...but his team would not win a championship.

    Here's a better question: how many rings would MJ have if he had a Shaq playing with him?

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    No.

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    Did you people watch Michael Jordan play??? Why do I keep reading that Michael Jordan made his teammates better??? He didn't. He was considered just as much a ballhog and selfish basketball player as Kobe is now. He didn't make Pippen better. Pippen got better DESPITE Michael Jordan. Jordan never allowed Pippen to grow to his full potential. And, what about Stacey King? Never made him better. What other players did MJ make better? None. MJ started to share the ball more in his championship years. But, before he started winning championships, he was a self-centered, egotistical, stat-stuffing player, perhaps even worse than what Kobe is described now. Do people just refuse to remember how Michael Jordan really was?

    By the way, even if you really want to believe Jordan made his teammates better, you can at least realize that it didn't start happening until his championship years. Michael Jordan won his first NBA le when he was 28 years old. By, the way, Kobe Bryant is currently 27 years old.

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    I cannot grok its fullnes leemajors's Avatar
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    Did you people watch Michael Jordan play??? Why do I keep reading that Michael Jordan made his teammates better??? He didn't. He was considered just as much a ballhog and selfish basketball player as Kobe is now. He didn't make Pippen better. Pippen got better DESPITE Michael Jordan. Jordan never allowed Pippen to grow to his full potential. And, what about Stacey King? Never made him better. What other players did MJ make better? None. MJ started to share the ball more in his championship years. But, before he started winning championships, he was a self-centered, egotistical, stat-stuffing player, perhaps even worse than what Kobe is described now. Do people just refuse to remember how Michael Jordan really was?

    By the way, even if you really want to believe Jordan made his teammates better, you can at least realize that it didn't start happening until his championship years. Michael Jordan won his first NBA le when he was 28 years old. By, the way, Kobe Bryant is currently 27 years old.
    the argument is that those rings didn't have the same effect on kobe as they did on jordan. jordan realized he had to trust his teammates to win all those rings, kobe already got his and is now playing for himself it would seem. i dont know if anyone could have made stacey king that much better, but jordan did win rings with perdue, wennington, cartwright, and luc longley. their career paths (mj and kobe) appear to be inverted at this point. whether he made his teammates better by dragging and beating them into what he needed is another argument. what kobe will be like later in his career remains to be seen.

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    Did you people watch Michael Jordan play??? Why do I keep reading that Michael Jordan made his teammates better??? He didn't. He was considered just as much a ballhog and selfish basketball player as Kobe is now. He didn't make Pippen better. Pippen got better DESPITE Michael Jordan. Jordan never allowed Pippen to grow to his full potential. And, what about Stacey King? Never made him better. What other players did MJ make better? None. MJ started to share the ball more in his championship years. But, before he started winning championships, he was a self-centered, egotistical, stat-stuffing player, perhaps even worse than what Kobe is described now. Do people just refuse to remember how Michael Jordan really was?

    By the way, even if you really want to believe Jordan made his teammates better, you can at least realize that it didn't start happening until his championship years. Michael Jordan won his first NBA le when he was 28 years old. By, the way, Kobe Bryant is currently 27 years old.
    I watched Michael Jordan play, and I can say with confidence that I think you are completely wrong. Jordan was never considered a stat-padder, although the same questions were asked of him that are currently being asked of LBJ. Jordan tried to win games on his own because he didn't have any confidence in his teammates, and as he developed, Jordan absolutely made his teammates better, mainly by demanding it from them on the practice court. The Pistons and Sixers from that period were very good teams and it took a few extra years for Jordan to get past them.

    What players did MJ make better? Hmmm..let's see here. This list is off the top of my head. He either made these guys tow the line, taught them how to be champions, opened up shot opportunities for them because of his post game and his penetration, or the guys never were worth a with any other team.

    Scottie Pippen
    Dennis Rodman
    Bill Cartwright
    Horace Grant
    Ron Harper
    Scott Williams
    John Paxson
    Will Perdue
    Bill Wennington
    BJ Armstrong
    Craig Hodges
    Luc Longley
    Steve Kerr

    Scottie Pippen had a great year after Jordan left, but he and a couple of other guys made the all-star team that year. They won fifty games, and oh by the way didn't make it to the conference finals. Pippen also refused to go into a game and fought with teammates without Jordan there to keep him in line. Pip did the same thing later in Houston.

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