Clippers: Clippers=Dark horse team in the West this year

[benefactor]

Lol at this thread being made after the laughable coaching job by Scottie Brooks today.

Leaving Jackson in the game when he was struggling, and playing him at SF in a small ball lineup against a lineup that featured both Griffin and Jordan was beyond idiotic.

He should have subbed in Collison for Jackson with 6-8 minutes left in the game. The Scottie line up that featured Derek Fisher guarding Blake Griffin forced the Thunder to foul often (had to be overly aggressive to compensate for the physical disadvantage-- which got Clippers in the penalty early).

Thunder will never win with Scott Brooks as a coach, tbh.

Agreed. Between him, their beta superstar and their overrated GM they will be forever runner ups.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

...and then Doc proceeded to do absolutely nothing with the Magic except swim in mediocrity the next several seasons and got fired...and continuity had more to do with that Celtics team squeezing out one more run. They had been there and done that...and still had the same defensive mindset Thibs installed even though he was gone. Beyond that one season you cited, Doc hasn't done much that's impressive from a coaching standpoint. He's just been in the right place at the right time with the right player/staff.

BTW...I agree Thibs is flawed as well. That doesn't change the fact he was the architect of that Celtics defense...which was every bit as important to the Celtic success as Pierce/Allen/Garnett.

Making up stories about causation is fun. Love the zero sum logic too. If Thibs is good then Doc must suck! Your logic is all about awful.

[ElNono]

Most coaches are overrated anyways...

[benefactor]

Making up stories about causation is fun. Love the zero sum logic too. If Thibs is good then Doc must suck! Your logic is all about awful.

Orlando had one season where Doc could be credited with doing anything meaningful. After that they did nothing and he was fired. The Celtics hired Doc got worse every season up to the point they managed to get Allen/Garnett/Pierce and hired Thibs to run the defense. All of these things are provable. I'm all ears if you have some sort of evidence that he is anything else but an opportunist.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Orlando had one season where Doc could be credited with doing anything meaningful. After that they did nothing and he was fired. The Celtics hired Doc got worse every season up to the point they managed to get Allen/Garnett/Pierce and hired Thibs to run the defense. All of these things are provable. I'm all ears if you have some sort of evidence that he is anything else but an opportunist.

You have named several things that correlate but have done nothing to demonstrate causation. Repeating yourself once again still isn't going to change that. You have shown that coaches depend on talent. Bravo.

[benefactor]

...and you have done nothing but move the goalposts. There are plenty of talented teams out there with ty coaches. Just look at the Thunder. Brooks is horrible with his rotations and his inability to properly manage the personalities on his team(something Phil Jackson was fantastic at) will both be his continual undoing year in and year out.

The OP stated Doc was one of the best coaches in the West. There isn't a shred of evidence to prove that.

[Rogue]

their bigs rotation is thin as paper and their low-post defense is weak as . There's a reason why this team hasn't advanced past the 2nd round for more than two decades despite how stacked they may look

[chief keef]

lold hard at turns on the switch

has to be the most over rated coach in the L