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    me too Beno>Van Exel

    We can use Van exel for more of a Robert Horry role, hitting clutch shots at certain times. Beno can backup Parker.

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    You have all the time in the world to find out.

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    I am pretty sure that was TPark. He said in some thread that he had told Vexler on the radio that Beno was the same thing as last season (slow, turnover prone, blah blah).
    It was. I heard the call.
    I should have known it was turncoat TPark...that figures

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    HE WAS ROOKIE LAST ING YEAR!!!
    Is this so hard to understand?
    This isn't a ing charity.

    Or a rebuilding team.

    Is that so hard to understand?

    If Beno holds his own against an actual NBA defense that presses him, then all is well and you can play him all you want.

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    This isn't a ing charity.

    Or a rebuilding team.

    Is that so hard to understand?

    If Beno holds his own against an actual NBA defense that presses him, then all is well and you can play him all you want.
    If Beno's teammates don't leave him hanging out to dry against the press, perhaps he doesn't turn the ball over. You guys that won't let this go get stupider by the day.

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    This isn't a ing charity.

    Or a rebuilding team.

    Is that so hard to understand?

    If Beno holds his own against an actual NBA defense that presses him, then all is well and you can play him all you want.
    well lately this team and forum resembles a NVE and Mike Fin charity...numbnuts

    so far NVE is getting burned on defense every ing game, but like I said before there is no point trying to discuse facts with people who prefer to live in fantasy land. Enjoy your NVE man crush.

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    So one game against what can only be described charitably as NDBL level compe ion warrants heavy rotation minutes?

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    If Beno's teammates don't leave him hanging out to dry against the press, perhaps he doesn't turn the ball over. You guys that won't let this go get stupider by the day.
    Beno couldn't handle the pressure. His teammates didn't do anything out of the ordinary versus the press.

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    Beno couldn't handle the pressure. His teammates didn't do anything out of the ordinary versus the press.
    Exactly. Since you said this like it's news then maybe you don't understand the way an offense beats a full-court press. Moving on...

    He "couldn't handle the pressure". So that means he completely sucks and is beyond redemption. So you apply this standard to other players as well? Rasho "never dunks" so he shouldn't be allowed to get offensive boards. Nazr "always travels" so he shouldn't get the ball period. Parker "always crumbles in the playoffs" so he needs to be traded. Manu "always gets hurt" so he should be dumped. Barry "can't hit a three" so he needs to go.

    Gee, pal, we're running out of players here. Is there anybody on this team that's worth a ? The Spurs are only on pace to match their best ever record

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    You speak as though things were not as they were. Handling backcourt pressure is not an unrealistic demand for a NBA point, especially one on a championship level team.

    Beno could not keep his dribble. He never gave his teammates a chance to help his Slavic ass out.

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    So one game against what can only be described charitably as NDBL level compe ion warrants heavy rotation minutes?
    He had two turnovers against the team leading the league (the NBA) in steals. If he hasn't proven that he deserves some minutes in meaningful games, then he needs to be traded while he has value. I thought the Van Exel signing was to help out in the playoffs, not to completely keep the backup point guard off the floor.

    If I'm the Spurs, I want to find out what I've got in a backup PG in case Van Exel isn't healthy in the playoffs, and if he's got some weaknesses, let's get them fixed.

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    You speak as though things were not as they were. Handling backcourt pressure is not an unrealistic demand for a NBA point, especially one on a championship level team.

    Beno could not keep his dribble. He never gave his teammates a chance to help his Slavic ass out.
    Okay, this is stupid. You need to tell me the exact number of times this happened in the playoffs, how many points in resulted in, and the number of Spurs losses resulted. In case you forgot, the Spurs won the championship, and Beno's Slavic ass contributed to that. It's a whole lot more likely that his defensive lapses were more to blame for his benching. Again, the only thing that will allow a guy to develop is game time. It's not like there are any guards on this team not named Parker setting the world on fire. Give the little some time at the 2 in small lineups and let him bring the ball up on occasion.

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    It's ridiculous to even try and talk to someone who bases Beno's whole career on a game when he was full court pressed in his rookie season.

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    Okay, this is stupid. You need to tell me the exact number of times this happened in the playoffs, how many points in resulted in, and the number of Spurs losses resulted. In case you forgot, the Spurs won the championship, and Beno's Slavic ass contributed to that. It's a whole lot more likely that his defensive lapses were more to blame for his benching. Again, the only thing that will allow a guy to develop is game time. It's not like there are any guards on this team not named Parker setting the world on fire. Give the little some time at the 2 in small lineups and let him bring the ball up on occasion.

    Your moniker "Obstructed View" is quite apropos.

    Recall when those turnovers occurred.

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    Let me see if I have my facts correct:

    Beno has a nice outside shot, and seems to have good basketball instincts.

    Beno SUCKED in last years finals.

    Beno is young.

    Beno needs minutes, either on the Spurs or elsewhere.

    Beno has window of opportunity to garner more minutes backing up Tony Parker (not necessarily a fact).

    Did I miss anything? Anyone disagree?

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    So one game against what can only be described charitably as NDBL level compe ion warrants heavy rotation minutes?
    Aaargh!
    NVE played last night too against this same team and did zip, zero, zilch, nada, etc. NVE is supposed to be a veteran snd know what is needed, so far he has been almost a no-show too many times. His FT% is terrible and around 10% pts below his career avg. He is washed-up.

    Beno derserves more minutes.
    People what to bring in number to support NVE but when number support Beno or another player they just don't like for whatever reason they turn a blind eye.

    When NVE is in the game a vast majority of the time, the ball movement is almost non-existent. I was not excited about him coming here but have been will to give him a chance, and he has not panned out. At least Finley has found a solid niche off the bench and is getting better on the "D". NVE can't even spell "D".

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    You missed Beno > NVE

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    You missed Beno > NVE
    Good catch, whippersnapper!

    Ideally, I'd like to see Beno pick up where he was this time last year, but I'm still happy the Spurs have NVE around for clutch insurance come playoff time.

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    beno should have been in austin tell about this time this year
    he would have played about 30 minutes a night
    then he would have improved
    then be brought up

    he is good but he needs to actually play in games to get better

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    I thought the Van Exel signing was to help out in the playoffs, not to completely keep the backup point guard off the floor.
    You thought wrong. Nick was signed to be the backup point. And Beno didn't really show much in the preseason if you care to remember.
    If I'm the Spurs, I want to find out what I've got in a backup PG in case Van Exel isn't healthy in the playoffs, and if he's got some weaknesses, let's get them fixed.
    Funny, I didn't hear you shouting for exploratory minutes for Wilks last year. Given Beno's injury history, that should have been a priority for you. Nonetheless I'm sure the coaching staff that sees him every day has more of a handle on his weaknesses than you have gleaned from 160 minutes this season.

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    Which one had anything to do with a press
    There was no turnover on the press.

    If you had paid attention you would have heard me say on the radio, had the Bobcats gave a crap they would have stolen it.


    Just admit you don't like him no matter what he does
    The things he is deficient in?

    He can't fix.

    I dont NOT like him, Im being honest.

    Sorry that honesty is "hate" to you people.


    He's a good shooter, he can handle the ball, he's quick, and he makes good passes.
    Good shooter? yeah, good passes?? ehhhh sometimes.

    Quick??? uhhh nooo, hes slow as molasses, hence the reason for problems in the backcourt.

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    See ya in the all-star game
    pfffttt

    bwahahhahahahah

    what All Star game??

    Euro all star game?


    He will flop again and praise Beno.
    When he learns to play against a press, and in crunch time situations in the playoffs, then I might.

    But I doubt it.

    Hes a smaller Hedo Turkoglu.

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    Look, I've never been a fan of NVE, but the fact remains that they would have never gotten Findog if not for NVE, because it was almost a package deal with NVE's recruitment of Findog.

    I like Beno. He's not the greatest ballhandler out there, but when it comes to shooting, he is not afraid. He'll jack it up against anyone, anytime. Against the Pistons, and Lindsey Hunter in particular, he did look afraid though. But that was last year. Hopefully, it won't be like that ever again.

    Still, I think it makes way more sense to play Beno way more minutes than NVE during the regular season because since he's still trying to prove himself, he'll take all the games very seriously. NVE is like Big Shot Bob, he doesn't have anything to prove to anyone, and he certainly won't get excited about playing 15 mins a night in a January game against the dregs of the league. Save him for the playoffs. In fact, I would dare suggest that at this point in his career, NVE is a pure chucker, and nothing more, and should be used only in blowout emergencies, like down 15 in the 4th, the way Kerr was used against the Mavs in the '03 playoffs.

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    You need to tell me the exact number of times this happened in the playoffs
    Forget the turnover in game 1 against Denver that tied it up and lost all the momentum for the Spurs?

    Game 3 against Detroit where he damn near singlehandedly blew the 8 point lead.

    Game 4 where the deficit went from 4 to like 12.

    Forget those times of the playoffs???

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    But that was last year. Hopefully, it won't be like that ever again.
    "Hopefully" hes fixed, doesn't cut it against the Pistons in the Finals.


    He was more shook than Hedo and Charlie Ward COMBINED.

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