good lord....would dare suggest that at this point in his career, NVE is a pure chucker, and nothing more, and should be used only in blowout emergencies
Nobody left him out to dry.If Beno's teammates don't leave him hanging out to dry against the press, perhaps he doesn't turn the ball over. You guys that won't let this go get stupider by the day
, guys like Horry and Bowen were begging for the ball, and the dude dribbled right into the same traps.
Every single goddamn time.
You guys that think one game against 8 CBA players and a couple of bench NBA players means anything get more stupid by the day.
Turncoat?I should have known it was turncoat TPark...that figures
Did I go to the other side?
Did I root for another team??
Buy a clue.
NVE still blows after this game.
Wow. NVE is lighting up a team tonight. Well, at least this one is somewhat close to .500 and not the worst team in the L who happened to be undermanned.
Wow. Insulting my moniker instead of answering the post. Original.
Answer to you: In the playoffs. Against playoff teams, aka teams good enough to get in the playoffs, aka teams that want to win. He turned the ball over. I'll check the box score because I'm sure he was the only person to turn the ball over.
The Spurs won four games in a row against Denver, so I guess Beno didn't cost the Spurs that much momentum. They lost game 3 to the Pistons by 17, and oh-by-the-way, never led by 8. The Pistons led by 30 in game 4. Which of those times cost the Spurs a game? You don't seem to be that rough on the starting point guard that chokes in the playoffs and at the end of games, so you might as well just give up your hypocritical argument.
Not really. I just followed your lead.
He couldn't bring the ball up against pressure, at a crucial point in the game. This team is all about winning in the postseason. Lose your Beno love and get some perspective.Answer to you: In the playoffs. Against playoff teams, aka teams good enough to get in the playoffs, aka teams that want to win. He turned the ball over. I'll check the box score because I'm sure he was the only person to turn the ball over.
What is it with the irrational love of Nesterovic and Udrih in this forum? Both are weak in key skill areas of their respective positions. Both have had zilch to do with the Spurs winning a championship. Actually, if anything, both have been detrimental to the Spurs in the postseason.
Oh well, dumping Beno for a pick will spare the Spurs from the luxury tax this season. So long.
Yes.....if comparing it to NVE and what he is done this year.
Yes.....just because he isn't as quick as TP or some other guards doesn't make him a bad player.
John Paxson wasn't a speed demon either but he did compliment Jordan well becaause he was given a chance to succeed. Okay..Beno is slow.
It seems like some people here aren't really watching the same team as the others. Brent Barry would do better than NVE at the PG position.
If every player was evaluated based on their rookie season/early career, their would be dozens of other players who would not be playing and are good NBA players.
If you based TP's play on his first year like some of you do to Beno. TP's first year or so was a roller coaster ride....he made turnovers had trouble guarding players, etc. Then we would not have the success we do and neither would he....he would be winning in New Jersey or someplace. We gave him a chance and he has made the most of it. Doesn't Beno deserve the same.
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Uff... Iverson, Duncan, Odom, LeBron, Marbury, ...are they good enough for NBA?
In Athens 2004 they didn't look like they are.
This isn't Athens 2004. This is the NBA 2006.
It's not about quickness it is about the ability to deal with pressure when handling the rock. That is a key skill for a point at any level to have.
Damn, if people in this forum got their way, Nesterovic, Udrih and Marks would be getting 30 minutes a night and the Spurs would be looking at a potential 1st round exit.
Yes, it is diferent game.. That was big school. Big Iverson, and even biger Timi. They can't beat Italy..Do you ever heard for eny of their players?
Really? In his ROOKIE season. Wow, well I'm guessing Tony was perfect in his rookie season.
So we should just label him as such and not let him play and learn with NBA experience, since his legs and youth are better than "old knees jack up threes Exel".
Yes, it is diferent game.
Nah, "Big School" is NBA. Anyways, I don't seem to recall Team Slovenia doing much in Athens.
Slovenia to take Beijing in 2008!
Now, finally we agree on something. NBA has tremendous knowledge of the game. Now, why do I advertise Slovenes and Marks? They contribute to the NBA a significant part of the philosophy that NBA is lacking.
TCT=Taking Care for the Team
Slovenia had Euroleague top players, who dunked at will and were/the quality that meant something. Like USA they failed while playing bad but coherent teams. USA needed Rasho and some other players to get the lesson, lesson that was given to Eurobasket many times, even with Manu Ginobili and some other legends of our tournaments. International games gives great meaning to ONE SHOT=ONE GAME, where quality of a team must be consistent at all times during playoffs (BTW Euroleague playoffs are almost as long as the season). NBA gives a for more than 50 games a season.
Beno, Sean and Rasho knows how is it to play with 6 players and some scrubs, and what to do to compete then and win. All of them dominated at some point in their career. Manu and Oberto have that experience. Peter, that is why I support Rasho. He is a groundstone for our National Team and a stabile quy for any NBA team. Beno is a great player anda talent beyond recognition and Marks has patience I truly admire.
Now tell me NBA players who fit that description in this league, where there is so much knowledge, but so much bad players and coaches: Seattle, Toronto, Atlanta...
LOL. A crucial point in the game being the last two minutes of the first half of a game the Spurs lost by 20. You can't even manufacture a clue.
Spare me a vDime brother, and buy me a clue. Are you suggesting that Beno's piss-poor play in last year's finals did not affect the W column?
Yes I'm sure his combined 18 minutes of play contrubuted mightily to the combined 48 point deficit in games 3 and 4. Although we could apply your logic and mention that he did play 25 minutes in games 1 and 2, games the Spurs managed to win in spite of having such a talentless slog on the floor. Let's take that further and mention that he did have 1 point in game 5, which was coincidentally the margin of victory.
Can someone send me a PM when Beno can dribble from the opponents baseline to half court?
I'd appreciate it.
Actually it was at the end of quarter 3 that Beno f'ed up. Keep digging, lil' doggie.
It's 2006. Page turning is encouraged to speed up play.
They were winning with Parker playing almost all of quarter 1 and 2, when Beno came in, he was a turnover mess who couldn't get the ball past halfcourt.They lost game 3 to the Pistons by 17, and oh-by-the-way, never led by 8
Rewatch game tape kiddo.
Actually thats called "momentum killer"A crucial point in the game being the last two minutes of the first half of a game the Spurs lost by 20
SOmething youve yet to wrap your skull around.
NVE still blows after this game.
If he was argentinian youd be on your knees for him too, so stfu.
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