I don't think anyone can ever say LeBron has no jump shot after game 6.
Losing @ home to the Nuggets
The point is:::there should not have been an "after game 6." dummy.
you asshole.. will you ever stop bringing that up?
who are you bandwagoning these days since Lakers are in shambles?
Bynumite going ham.
Reverse it:::would you stop, King?
ite with them goods tbh.
Bron looks gassed.
Tee, hee
This thread has nothing to do with Lebron James. It's a weak attempt to elevate Kobe by lowering whomever is the best in the league at the moment. If you cannot elevate your game, try to lower theirs.
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In the 5 games after the 61 point game LeLayup is 5 for 41 outside the paint.
Lebron will never be GOAT, he has just failed too much, and his success really hasn't made up for it.
He had one truly dominant season in which he dismantled the opposition day after day, and that was 2012. But then nobody will forget 2011, when Dirk and co absolutely dominated him in an upset that nobody saw coming. Lebron was overly passive on many occasions, and didn't seem like the obvious go to guy on the Heat.
He did great vs. the Pistons in 2007 (generally a great playoff run), but his series against the Spurs sort of offset it. Nobody expected the Cavs to beat the Spurs, and most people actually expected the Pistons to beat them, but Lebron from a personal stand point, Lebron was defended very effectively by the Spurs collapsing defense. Was it really his fault, not really, because who could he have passed to? Boobie Gibson? Mo Williams? His crappy team made it easy for the Spurs to defend him, and that was not the fault of his own, but he did look confused by the Spurs defense, and wasn't overly aggressive at times.
Then 2013, he was very inconsistent in the Finals. When he was on, he dominated, but then when he wasn't, he looked like a regular allstar.
Jordan had the 1996 finals series, where he was defended very well by Payton and the entire Sonics defense, but overall, there hasn't been many teams that could really figure out Jordan. And 1996 was most definitely not Jordan's absolute prime. In other years, even though there are times he lost (vs. Pistons and Celtics), you just can't blame Jordan too much because the team make up wasn't supposed to win. Whenever Jordan was expected to win, he won. You can't say the same about Lebron.
Jordan failed quite a bit too before Pippen came along.
By fail I don't mean he didn't win the finals. By fail I mean under achieve. Can't really say that about Jordan even though he lost against the celtics and the pistons. Those were great teams and the bulls weren't. The bulls were supposed to lose
That means he failed because he couldn't beat the greats. LeBron's teams weren't great before Miami. LeBron underachieved in the 2011 finals, but do the Heat make the finals with Wade and Bosh? They'd probably be first or second round fodder.
can't equate a team failure with individual failure. i can't fault lebron for losing to the spurs in 07, but i can for 2011, for instance
The Lebron cavs weren't great but Lebron didn't step up a few times when they lost. The magic series and the Orlando series were great but there were plenty of series Lebron didn't step up. The spurs series being one of them.
For 2011, if your argument is that Lebron made that team better, then it's not much of an argument at all. We are taking about the GOAT, you're supposed to make your team better and carry hem past a few rounds with players of the caliber of wade and bosh. Lebron disappeared in 11 finals vs the mavs and this will be a huge black mark when evaluating his legacy. Jordan simply didn't have a series like that, with his worst being the Seattle series. But even the. Jordan was clearly the best player on his team and he won. In the mavs series, Lebron wasn't even the best player on his team and his team lost in a heavily favored series.
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