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    Let me know when you want to talk basketball.

    That is, without getting butthurt when someone disagrees with you, like N0 LyF3 ScRuB.

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    Honestly overall I've been very pleased with Manu's contributions during the first round. His efficiency in game 2 was phenomenal, and he had a great overall game in game 3.

    The point of my initial post wasn't even to single out Manu, tbh. I was questioning the fact that so many people are pointing the finger at Pop for failing to come up with brand new "schemes." Manu's "poor shooting" overall was just one thing that you could point to, but that wasn't really the point of my initial post to begin with.
    I get you... but this isn't Manu's team anymore... he's just really, really trying to play like SuperManu in stretches because he doesn't want to lose... it's painful to watch sometimes... same with Timmy...

    They can't dominate anymore, and while this team looked like better prepared to handle things without their top player, it's obviously not happening if everyone else just disappears...

    When I said what I said after game 1, the game we won, I said I didn't want to post it because people think I hate Tony and what not, and it's completely untrue (just like the King of Manu fans schtick).

    This team needs it's leader or his role players to play for 48 minutes. Or at least 30-40 minutes. Hasn't happened yet. There's so much scheming you can do, but at some point it boils down to players showing up and playing better.

    The Mavs are doing it, the Spurs are not.

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    Let's say Pop came up with a new offensive and/or defensive scheme for game 3. In truth, there's a continuum of possibilities that could've played out, but broadly speaking we can classify the potential outcome into three general cases:

    Case I: The new scheme doesn't work and the spurs get blown out by 20 points
    Case II: The new scheme is no more or less effective than the scheme we actually used in game 3, and the spurs find themselves within 2 or 3 points with a couple of minutes go go
    Case III: We blow out the Mavericks early and the new scheme ends up being, in hindsight, a huge success.

    Some people have issues with Pop's defensive scheme of going under screens. The fact is that there's no telling that "case III" would've necessarily played out had we not gone under screens. You'd need a time machine to play the game over again while implementing the new, "don't go under screens" scheme in order to determine that. And unfortunately, we can't do that.

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    I get you... but this isn't Manu's team anymore... he's just really, really trying to play like SuperManu in stretches because he doesn't want to lose... it's painful to watch sometimes... same with Timmy...

    They can't dominate anymore, and while this team looked like better prepared to handle things without their top player, it's obviously not happening if everyone else just disappears...

    When I said what I said after game 1, the game we won, I said I didn't want to post it because people think I hate Tony and what not, and it's completely untrue (just like the King of Manu fans schtick).

    This team needs it's leader or his role players to play for 48 minutes. Or at least 30-40 minutes. Hasn't happened yet. There's so much scheming you can do, but at some point it boils down to players showing up and playing better.

    The Mavs are doing it, the Spurs are not.
    I know that, tbh. I was just pulling your leg . You're one of the most reasonable Manu fans on this site.

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    There's not enough time to effectively change the defensive scheme. And when you consider that the Spurs didn't practice today, I'm pretty sure that means Pop is just going to hope that things will work in our favor for once in game 4. I could see Pop flipping Kawhi and Green's defensive assignments, but that's probably it.
    Last edited by dallasmaverickslose; 04-27-2014 at 10:12 PM.

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    Let's say Pop came up with a new offensive and/or defensive scheme for game 3. In truth, there's a continuum of possibilities that could've played out, but broadly speaking we can classify the potential outcome into three general cases:

    Case I: The new scheme doesn't work and the spurs get blown out by 20 points
    Case II: The new scheme is no more or less effective than the scheme we actually used in game 3, and the spurs find themselves within 2 or 3 points with a couple of minutes go go
    Case III: We blow out the Mavericks early and the new scheme ends up being, in hindsight, a huge success.

    Some people have issues with Pop's defensive scheme of going under screens. The fact is that there's no telling that "case III" would've necessarily played out had we not gone under screens. You'd need a time machine to play the game over again while implementing the new, "don't go under screens" scheme in order to determine that. And unfortunately, we can't do that.
    And I'm with you. I think the Spurs have already tried a bunch of different things.. We're 3 game deep into this. Pop will adjust as the game goes on based on what's happening out there.

    All that said, if we don't have players wanting it more than the Mavs, we're not going to win. There's no silver bullet gimmick that will replace playing hard, making shots, paying attention on defense, etc...

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    Also, watch the hyperlinked video attached to "we can't do that," tbh. It's an interesting watch, and it's very accessible to the general public, tbqh.

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    What was the joke at the end of the interview?

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    The bench deserves to get tossed under the bus. They have been pathetically bad this series.
    Exactly! This is no time to coddle. It's mission critical, throw the gauntlet down time. Hopefully this gets guys fired up.

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    It's time to man up this will show me who needs a new contract or who needs to be traded.

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    Is this guy serious or re ed?

    He he made what would have been the game winner... And he is the only Spur that has been balling all 3 games..
    You must have a pretty lax definition of balling for Manu.

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    David Chancellor ting all over Tony Parker in the Sunday newscast. said:

    Tony Parker has been disappearing in the second half of games and the second half of series for 15 years now. At some point you just have to say he is who he is.

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    David Chancellor ting all over Tony Parker in the Sunday newscast. said:

    Tony Parker has been disappearing in the second half of games and the second half of series for 15 years now. At some point you just have to say he is who he is.
    going in, tbh

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    David Chancellor ting all over Tony Parker in the Sunday newscast. said:

    Tony Parker has been disappearing in the second half of games and the second half of series for 15 years now. At some point you just have to say he is who he is.
    Damn.

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    I have never heard anything like that from the San Antonio media.

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    TP really should have developed a 3 pt shot; pretty much every other PG in the lead can do it. Once his midrange isn't working and teams pack the paint, he goes into dribble dribble mode.

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    Pop did a fine job in game 3. But Ellis not missing in the 4th and Marion going nuts in the first half did us in. Our offense looked much better and the rotations were more tight. He has some adjustments to make, but this deficit is mostly due to Tony and our role players playing maddeningly inconsistent ball. It would also help if we didn't make Dalembert look like an all star tbh...

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    David Chancellor ting all over Tony Parker in the Sunday newscast. said:

    Tony Parker has been disappearing in the second half of games and the second half of series for 15 years now. At some point you just have to say he is who he is.
    Harsh, but true....unfortunately.

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    TP really should have developed a 3 pt shot; pretty much every other PG in the lead can do it. Once his midrange isn't working and teams pack the paint, he goes into dribble dribble mode.
    He has it, he just doesn't use it.

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    TP really should have developed a 3 pt shot; pretty much every other PG in the lead can do it. Once his midrange isn't working and teams pack the paint, he goes into dribble dribble mode.
    He has the green light to shoot the corner 3 and the 45 degree angle 3. I think he took one 45-er and made it, IIRC.

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    TP is more of a spot up 3 point shooter, can't really hit off the dribble, come off screens and hit 3s.

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    Worst part was it was right after this segment where they were building him up, as the guy who Duncan wouldn't even talk to and no one believed in as a 19 year-old French PG. How he worked his way to an All-Star, a Finals MVP, a coach drawing up plays in the timeout... and then Chancellor just s all over him like one of the Mexican Manu fans here.

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    Tp took us home with 50 seconds left in game 6 last year. Not his fault the bus was crashed by Pop and Manu as it was entering the finish line.

    Last year Manu and Pop don't the bed and everyone would still be on TP's nuts

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    I have never heard anything like that from the San Antonio media.
    I saw that too. I was wondering if anyone else on ST saw it. The guy has been great, and has helped bring some les to SA, but we really have been talking about this for awhile. Going back to the 03' run, when Speedy Claxton took his crunch time minutes of Game 6 to clinch the le. And then the next year in 04' against the Lakers in Games 1 and 2 he was great, and then he was shut down by the Lakers for the rest of the series..

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    I saw that too. I was wondering if anyone else on ST saw it. The guy has been great, and has helped bring some les to SA, but we really have been talking about this for awhile. Going back to the 03' run, when Speedy Claxton took his crunch time minutes of Game 6 to clinch the le. And then the next year in 04' against the Lakers in Games 1 and 2 he was great, and then he was shut down by the Lakers for the rest of the series..
    That was on Turkoglu. Phil Jackson never put a defender within 10 feet of him after Game 2.

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