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    Didn't the Spurs have the possibility of picking up Batum a couple years ago but chose to resign Bonner and Neal?
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    Didn't the Spurs have the possibility of picking up Batum a couple years ago but chose to resign Bonner and Neal?
    Batum got an offer sheet averaging $11.5mm a year which Portland matched. So unless one of the Big Three were gone and they had offered considerably more for Batum, answer is no.

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    Pumping up your chest because your are about to beat the weakest team in the west.
    A 49 win team in the most loaded conference in NBA history. It's a ing playoff win. You celebrate those. FFS. You're the type of fan that would be given a Porsche for free and endlessly about how much better a Ferrari is.

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    Still wondering which of you geniuses can answer a simple question.

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    Who would you have signed? Since you're such a genius when it comes to free agency and all.
    Funny, I don't see any disagreement on your post.

    Want to know who? Go back to the offseason threads where I was blasting Ayres and Marco signings and find out. And add demarre Carroll. This isn't hindsight for Marco and Ayres, when others were talking up Ayres and calling him a better malik rose, I was correctly punting out how he was terrible and an awful user of the MLE. When Marco's name was being connected to the spurs, I was one of those calling him a lateral move as a slightly taller Neal.

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    Funny, I don't see any disagreement on your post.
    You don't? How about this: I think people who are criticizing the best Front Office in the NBA by calling them poor are the worst kind of self-serving, fairweather fan who runs the minute we get down by 5 points in a playoff game. I throw them in with the same people who think Pop is a ty coach (48 page thread here on that btw), and were calling for Manu to be traded 3-4 years ago. This "what have you done for me lately" at ude that's so prevalent on SpursTalk is the height of absurdity, given that there are ~28 other teams in the NBA that would KILL to have our FO OR our coaching staff. But nope, they're terrible, because YOU know more about basketball than 90% of the execs in the NBA. Give me a break. You're the epitome of a Monday Morning Quarterback who thinks they're a "student of the game", hyper-analyzing every single thing the Spurs do, not understanding that signing LeBron in the offseason wasn't a possibility.

    When Marco's name was being connected to the spurs, I was one of those calling him a lateral move as a slightly taller Neal.
    Yeah. Clearly you know a lot about basketball. If we didn't have Marco, we'd be playing Memphis right now. Would you enjoy that prospect given how they've been with OKC? No? Ok then. We have had the best bench in the NBA to this point, but nevermind that. That's why you're making all that dough recruiting for NBA teams, right chief?

    I'm not too sad, the spurs have won 4 les, so I have my memories. A shame they wasted the mle and summer with trash, and it socks to see Ayres getting minutes, but all good things come to an end.
    Oh look, you're a cliffjumping scrub. No surprise here. Why the are you even watching games since you're so sure we're going to lose to Dallas?

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    Still don't understand why it was necessary to give Marco MLE money. Negative impact loser that's played on lottery teams his whole career. Should have offered him the LLE. If he declined, tell him to off and find another team. Ayres getting a portion of the MLE is even more worse. His NBA career is non-existant - tore his ACL and barely played any games in Indiana. Yet the Spurs gift him with a 3 mil contract. He should be making nothing more than the minimum. Hasn't done anything in the NBA to warrant more than that.

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    Yeah. Clearly you know a lot about basketball. If we didn't have Marco, we'd be playing Memphis right now. Would you enjoy that prospect given how they've been with OKC? No? Ok then. We have had the best bench in the NBA to this point, but nevermind that. That's why you're making all that dough recruiting for NBA teams, right chief?
    Where did you come to that conclusion?

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    Marco was a solid signing.

    This was our best game this series.
    Some great interior passing.

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    Marco was a solid signing.
    Not really. Another low IQ, chucker at the SG position. Not necessary. Not when there were better options available.

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    Still don't understand why it was necessary to give Marco MLE money. Negative impact loser that's played on lottery teams his whole career. Should have offered him the LLE. If he declined, tell him to off and find another team. Ayres getting a portion of the MLE is even more worse. His NBA career is non-existant - tore his ACL and barely played any games in Indiana. Yet the Spurs gift him with a 3 mil contract. He should be making nothing more than the minimum. Hasn't done anything in the NBA to warrant more than that.
    You obviously missed Marco last year in Chicago when their guards went bad in the playoffs.
    Marco handled that team very well.

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    They aren't poor or the worst, but they did make poor decisions with Marco and Ayres. If you can't see that, then that's on you. BUT the point STILL stands and you STILL aren't disagreeing, only being disagreeable.

    You can go ahead and go back through my post history and stack it to yours, no worries from me.

    And it's sad to see the 'Monday morning qb' crack when nothing had been in hindsight. NOTHING. What is this 'lebron' thing? I've NEVER criticized the spurs for not signing Lebron, NEVER. When people make up nonsense and attribute it falsely, that's sad. And this 'pop is a ty coach' fantasy involving me .... More sadness. Everytime I've criticized pop it was with damn good reason (splitter's rookie year comes foremost to mind).

    Keep on making up things to falsely blame on me if you want, that's on you

    Have I been wrong in the past? Plenty. But I've been right more. And I've been right in this thread.

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    You obviously missed Marco last year in Chicago when their guards went bad in the playoffs.
    Marco handled that team very well.
    No, I didn't. Marco didn't play defense back then either. If we wanted a ty, low IQ guard that didn't play D on our roster we should have just resigned Neal and used the entire MLE on a GOOD impactful player. Marco doesn't impact games...at all.

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    Marco doesn't impact games...at all.
    Not very accurate. Just because he isn't doesn't mean he can't.

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    No, I didn't. Marco didn't play defense back then either. If we wanted a ty, low IQ guard that didn't play D on our roster we should have just resigned Neal and used the entire MLE on a GOOD impactful player. Marco doesn't impact games...at all.
    BS

    He has been nonexistent so far.
    In the regular season he had a considerable impact.
    If the playoffs continue with him looking lost I will agree.

    But not now. I want him as a weapon for what will hopefully another series.

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    lol spurfan is pathetic

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    Not very accurate. Just because he isn't doesn't mean he can't.
    Marco had decent box score numbers this year but his impact stats were pretty bad(mostly on defense).

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    No, I didn't. Marco didn't play defense back then either. If we wanted a ty, low IQ guard that didn't play D on our roster we should have just resigned Neal and used the entire MLE on a GOOD impactful player. Marco doesn't impact games...at all.
    You said he played on lottery teams.

    He was needed badly in Chicago. You did not watch him. If you did, you don't have a clue.

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    You said he played on lottery teams.

    He was needed badly in Chicago. You did not watch him. If you did, you don't have a clue.
    Eastern Conference. Yeah, Marco was so impactful that Thib didn't even want him back and ended up replacing him with a better player in Dunleavy

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    lol spurfan is pathetic
    It gets worse and worse...

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    It gets worse and worse...
    Ayers is a better bigger Malik Rose. Been saying this for a while. Really really excited about this kid. When Diaw goes back to soft offensively, I'd play him down the stretch in smaller situations. Great rebounder.

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    Unlike Ayres whose job was to be a regular season minute burner (and you could say he sucked at everything, but burn minutes he did, and the Spurs did win 62 games), Marco is expected to do more.

    Debates about his defense should go nowhere quick, since that's not the reason he's here (much like any debate about Neal's defense in his tenure as a Spur should die a quick death), but his offense through making open shots, cuts and making sound decisions with the ball is what was expected of him. He did some of that in the regular season for us, and he's done a lot of that both in New Orleans and Chicago, including the playoffs. Which is why it's so puzzling to see him struggle so mightily doing his bread and butter stuff. It's not his first rodeo on a semi-important role. You could even argue he had more responsibilities in NO and CHI.

    But there's no way to spin it. He has sucked mightily this series, and right now, he looks like a terrible pickup. The only hope is that we move on from this series, and perhaps against a more lax defense that doesn't grab as much off the ball and pays less attention to shooters, he can regain his regular season form. We don't need a whole lot from him. If he can give us the 10ppg he averaged during the RS on 20 some minutes, that will be great.

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    Belinelli has always been a low-impact player, tbh.. His defensive on/off metrics are as bad as any wing player in the NBA over the past 5 seasons..

    He's fine as a luxury player used in specific scenarios that require shooting/scoring, but when Pop is using him at the expense of Danny Green's defense(Green averaged 32 MPG in last year's playoffs), it hurts the team..

    You can make the argument that his playmaking ability was the reason the Spurs signed him, in an attempt to relieve Manu of all the responsibility, but the Spurs have barely used Belinelli as a creator this season, so I'm not sure if I buy that..

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    Why are we ting on Marco? Mills has been just as bad.

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    Unlike Ayres whose job was to be a regular season minute burner (and you could say he sucked at everything, but burn minutes he did, and the Spurs did win 62 games), Marco is expected to do more.

    Debates about his defense should go nowhere quick, since that's not the reason he's here (much like any debate about Neal's defense in his tenure as a Spur should die a quick death), but his offense through making open shots, cuts and making sound decisions with the ball is what was expected of him. He did some of that in the regular season for us, and he's done a lot of that both in New Orleans and Chicago, including the playoffs. Which is why it's so puzzling to see him struggle so mightily doing his bread and butter stuff. It's not his first rodeo on a semi-important role. You could even argue he had more responsibilities in NO and CHI.

    But there's no way to spin it. He has sucked mightily this series, and right now, he looks like a terrible pickup. The only hope is that we move on from this series, and perhaps against a more lax defense that doesn't grab as much off the ball and pays less attention to shooters, he can regain his regular season form. We don't need a whole lot from him. If he can give us the 10ppg he averaged during the RS on 20 some minutes, that will be great.

    They aren't allowing him an open shot. I seriously don't understand why this is hard for you people to understand this....

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