Since you guys like stats, +/- wise Rasho was the second best only to Ginobili last night.
Nazr was 6th with all the rebounds and praises u gave him. In Denver he was to blame for the loss, here Spurs hardly won. So again Spurs are winning despite Nazr.
Again stats: Popcorn Machine
I love it!
So Dre_7 the truth doesn´t hurt anymore?
SA didnt lose against Denver because of Nazr. And that is the truth!
Maybe or maybe not. All I know is when Spurs lose it is always Rashos´ fault.
All I said is that Nazr was blamed. I know that personaly, couse I blamed him.
I even got busy and provided a link to back me up. Nazr was hurting the team by making those great numbers. You said that Parker had a weak game and Tim was not his usual self.
Now we have a healthy great 3 with numbers and Nazr got the majority of minutes.... and we hardly won! They even outblocked Spurs! Nazr got blocked twice I believe.
What is the truth? I hope you are just to lazy for a discussion. Otherwise you are just weak.
I have never blamed Rasho for a lose. Ever.
damn lotta hate for Rasho.
It think Rasho would get traded immediately, but I'm afraid noone in the league would give up anything important for him.
This whole forum has been elevated in my eyes. Kori and TIMVP lovingly poking fun at each other keeps the forum real.
OK, Rasho has no rythm but he can block shots and is smart. When Nazr finds his rythm he's a much better fit for the spurs. Problem is Nazr has been out of rythm most of the season.
The only response I have to the original poster is: Delusional.
So Dre_7 the truth doesn´t hurt anymore?
Man, that's too much even for me...
So either we have a starting center who makes himself a presence in the paint and on the glass but might not be sharp on some rotations or we have a starting center who can get to his spots on the floor but is otherwise a non-factor. The former is more of what this team needs. You will have Horry getting heavy minutes in the big rotation in the postseason. He's great, but he's still pretty light for a big. You need the center to be active inside and on the glass to complement that. The Spurs aren't going to be able to get away with Rasho starting against Detroit. Then again, I have no emotional attachment to either Rasho or Nazr. I just want to see the team win.
I think Rasho has to improve. That's pretty sad when you've been playing with the Spurs for a while. He is great when it comes to defense and knowing where to be on defense, but how can you average less than five rebounds per game when you are starting at center? Since he has come to the Spurs his average in points, rebounds, and blocks have come down. It could be because he is playing less minutes, but let's be real. Rasho needs to play with more energy. Its just not right for him to average less than five rebounds per contest.
I don't know if you start Nazr in place of Rasho, but you have to consider it if Nazr keeps this up. I would really like to see Marks get more minutes. He lays it all out when he is in the game. He does exactly what he is suppose to do when you come off the bench. You have to bring it and he does.
I think the time's up on waiting for Rasho to improve. What you see is what you get. He seems so afraid of committing an error on the court that he's tentative like . Nazr's game isn't polished, but he isn't afraid to mix it up inside, be active on the glass and get to the line.
Warning!!!! Warning!!!! ^^^^Stat lovers above^^^^
if you find yourself agreeing with shawn michaels, you may experience a seizure.
Some people have to have someone to bash I guess because the anti Rasho sentiment is just stupid. Rasho is what he is and that is the best help defender on this team. He hits an occasional jumper and is an decent defensive rebounder.
I dont think there is any question that Nazr's ceiling is higher but you do have to be concerned with one thing: this is his second season including a full training camp and the guy seems to have regressed in his knowledge of our system.
I mean I get that he had some family health issues and had to fly back and forth from Lexington and I pull for the guy as a former Wildcat BUT rustiness is no excuse for complete ineptness that he has shown for the last 3 months.
I dont think there is any questiion that Pop has Rasho in the role that he wants at about 15 to 20 minutes per game and whether or not Nazr improves that is not going to change much. What should be telling you something is that Pop is playing Horry more than the both of them.
Robert Horry is the one that is taking Nazr's minutes and considering how Pop wants to rest his key players there is no way that the staff sees this as the ideal situation. Nazr needs to show up against a quality opponent and hopefully he can pull his head out of his ass before we have to play Detroit in the finals.
I seriously doubt that if we lost Rasho's defense, we would be comfortable with Nazr. I shudder everytime he walks onto the court. I'm pleased when he does well, but I will not be sorry to see him leave. People continuously slight Rasho's defense, and I think that is a serious underestimation, especially when you consider the impaired defense of Tim Duncan.
Ideally, we'd get someone better than both combined, or we'd keep both, as they together make a pretty good center. But the reality is that we can't keep both, and unless Nazr sharpens up and learns the rotations a of a lot more quickly than he has demonstrated to date and learns how not to foul, he's gone. They'll let him walk because he thinks he's worth more money than he is really worth.
I like Rasho, that's no secret. I don't hate Nazr. If we could get someone great for one or the other, do it. We won't be able to. So let's stick with the guy who fills his role (that role being set by Pop & co, not by fans who want David Robinson reincarnate) - the guy who's always in place on defense, has a nice little jumper, has gotten more aggressive.
It seems simple to me, keep them both. When one is sucking play the other.
Rasho is a weak defensive rebounder (2.5 a night?! Yikes). The stats merely show how weak his game is. The only thing the Rasho lovers have to offer is that he knows how to set the occasional pick and get to his spot. Well, that's great, but if he's not asserting himself on the court, which is shown by his weak rebounding and failure to get to the line, then he's not doing his job and someone better needs to be found.
I've never seen Spurs fans so willing to make excuses for a player so weak before.
We did pretty well without him in the finals vs. Detroit. I might be wrong but he must have played less than 10min /game?
Rasho averaged like 1 minute per game in last June's Finals. I think we can do without him.
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