Spurs: NBA forum consensus: The 1999 San Antonio Spurs

[DD]

Hey give me a reason on why the Lakers would have a won a le in '99 if it was a full season or any other team. I'm a nobody in your eyes because I didn't agree with your typical laker homerism bs propaganda that is what it comes down to and personally I don't care. For the Love=2 more les I could direct you to lakersground that is where most of where your fans are saying that statement.

Missed this gem of a post...

1. I don't recognize 1999 as a season, therefore I don't envision what-if scenarios about said season.
2. I don't post on LG, but apparently you do
3. You said I'm here 24/7, yet you're the one posting at 4:00 am on a monday morning--which tells me you're most likely unemployed

[spurraider21]

the "but everybody played the same amount of games!" argument. It was still an awkward, ty product. Doesn't mean it's still not an asterisk year, nor does it justify why that bas ized season wasn't mercifully shelved from the get-go.

If some pharma company releases a bad batch of Hep B vaccinations, nobody's gonna justify it by saying, "well, at least they all had the same exposure...herp derp!"

you just seem to have the impression that seasons where the lakers don't make noise equate to an awkward, ty product. if the lakers had won in 99, you'd be mighty proud of that 4peat

[Venti Quattro]

you just seem to have the impression that seasons where the lakers don't make noise equate to an awkward, ty product. if the lakers had won in 99, you'd be mighty proud of that 4peat

No because that should have been a 6-peat. Too many what-ifs didn't fall LA's way

[DD]

you just seem to have the impression that seasons where the lakers don't make noise equate to an awkward, ty product. if the lakers had won in 99, you'd be mighty proud of that 4peat

How'd you draw that conclusion based off 1 (or 2 seasons)?

1980-End of Jordan/Bulls era, 2000-2006, and 2008-present weren't awkward, ty products. In hindsight people on 90's basketball (some with good reason)--but the NBA became globally popular in that decade.

Only 2 seasons in my lifetime have been horrible products, so again, you're wrong.

I'll give you a mulligan on that take

[ezau]

That 1999 le is the equivalent of having a gay son. Even though it's shameful and embarrassing, it's still yours.

Speaking of gay sons:

[jimbo]

I don't lodge the asterisk just because of the shortened season, but rather because hardly anyone knew how to deal with it. You had few athletes actually keeping in regular season shape that year leading to ty basketball. The 2012 lockout corrected most of the problems from the 99 lockout.

That being said, it's still a championship the Spurs won. It's just one of the least impressive ones of all time. Definitely top 2-3 in the modern era.

[benefactor]

Interesting and refreshing topic with many thoughts I have never considered. Will share these thoughts with people of influence and those I consider part of my inner circle.

[resistanze]

Meh, there's a whole lot of asterisks to give out tbh

1996 *(expansion year)
1994-1997 *(re ed 3 point line)
Before 1980 *(no 3 point line)
80s as a whole *(before defense)
60s *(8 team league)
50s *(majority white midget league)

[Franklin]

2006 *(rigged officiating)
2012 *(shortened season)
2013 *(horse three pointer)

[Shastafarian]

An interesting excerpt from an article written by Laker fan Craig Kwasniewski:



http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_...terisks-f.html

fify

[Dex]

Spurs rocked the league so hard in '99, they could have won the championship after 100-game season.

Every team had the same chance they did.

[rogues]

Interesting and refreshing topic with many thoughts I have never considered. Will share these thoughts with people of influence and those I consider part of my inner circle.

I'm sure it goes beyond your reading level given your lack of education..scintillating stuff for you, partner..

[midnightpulp]

Only idiot would consider the 1999 le illegitimate. No one was beating that team with that frontline. To add credence, the Blazers, who the Spurs swept, made the WCF in 2000 and were half a quarter away from a likely championship.

[Ricky Davis]

An interesting excerpt from an article written by objective NBA fan Craig Kwasniewski:

"Much like the 1982 and 1987 Washington Redskins and the 1981 LA Dodgers, the 1999 Spurs can never rank up there with le-holders from full seasons. The "highlight" from the 1999 Finals was a wide open 14-foot baseline jumper by Avery Johnson for crissake... not a key steal or a sick layup, but a W-I-D-E O-P-E-N 14-foot jumper."

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_...terisks-f.html

what kind of logic is this? Just because it was a boring Finals means the le is less legitimate?

What great Logic!

[UZER]

what kind of logic is this? Just because it was a boring Finals means the le is less legitimate?

What great Logic!

It's Lakerfan logic. Do you expect anything different?

[Blake]

That 1999 le is the equivalent of having a gay son. Even though it's shameful and embarrassing, it's still yours.

That's actually an apt analogy, imo, because in 50 years, both gays and the 99 ship will be finally be accepted by all of society as normal.

[DD]

Only idiot would consider the 1999 le illegitimate. No one was beating that team with that frontline. To add credence, the Blazers, who the Spurs swept, made the WCF in 2000 and were half a quarter away from a likely championship.

The 2000 team was much more talented and deeper

[ambchang]

The only asterisk seasons are:
2000 - 20+ FTa in the 4 th quarter of an elimination game.
2002 - same ad 2000
2006 - dwhistle.

[baseline bum]

What's the argument about the 99 le? That the compressed schedule hurt old teams like Utah, but not old teams like SA? Shouldn't LA have ripped through the Spurs then? So the 1999 season is invalid because Karl Malone was going to nut up and win a le if not for the lockout? The same Karl Malone who needed chokes by Divac to escape the first round and who put up 8 points in an elimination game in Portland when he had a real season next year?

[Clipper Nation]

It's not the Spurs' fault that most of the league was re ed and didn't stay in shape during the lockout.... asterisks belong on "championships" like 1998, 2000, 2002, etc. that were the product of rigged officiating....

[daslicer]

Missed this gem of a post...

1. I don't recognize 1999 as a season, therefore I don't envision what-if scenarios about said season.
2. I don't post on LG, but apparently you do
3. You said I'm here 24/7, yet you're the one posting at 4:00 am on a monday morning--which tells me you're most likely unemployed

1. Right so your opinion basically means on this subject.
2. LG pretty much gives us an idea of what your fanbase thinks and yeah I read it time to time for comedy.
3. Stick to basketball takes you have no clue to what I do for a living and neither do I have an interest to find out what you do so lets leave it at that.

[DD]

3. Stick to basketball takes you have no clue to what I do for a living and neither do I

we got us a winner here

[spurraider21]

How'd you draw that conclusion based off 1 (or 2 seasons)?

1980-End of Jordan/Bulls era, 2000-2006, and 2008-present weren't awkward, ty products. In hindsight people on 90's basketball (some with good reason)--but the NBA became globally popular in that decade.

Only 2 seasons in my lifetime have been horrible products, so again, you're wrong.

I'll give you a mulligan on that take

Meh, you've admitted to being a fair weather fan and you yourself said you didn't watch much ball this season. I'd find a season boring too if I didn't watch many games. I'm just assuming your fair weather fanhood isn't a new phenomenon

[spurraider21]

That's actually an apt analogy, imo, because in 50 years, both gays and the 99 ship will be finally be accepted by all of society as normal.

Gays might be accepted, but by definition will never be normal

[DD]

Meh, you've admitted to being a fair weather fan and you yourself said you didn't watch much ball this season. I'd find a season boring too if I didn't watch many games. I'm just assuming your fair weather fanhood isn't a new phenomenon

This has nothing to do with your previous point. Not "RW was great"-bad, but still pretty damn awful.