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We'll just pretend you didn't just suggest Bonner play important minutes against the thunder.
PG don't win championship and Parker played like wussy.
We'll just pretend you didn't just suggest Bonner play important minutes against the thunder.
I hope the Spurs are watching Brooks' press conf
" I have a lot of respect forthe Spurs, but they are not better than us"
Are you taking that out of context? I'm sure he said they were evenly matched.
I am TBH
HE said " not that much better "
I am TBH
HE said " not that much better "you changed the entire meaning
Okc isn't scared of us we held home court their full strength and looking to do the same
Lol, thought so. Phil Jackson would be the only coach to say something like that.I am TBH
HE said " not that much better "
If Bonner so much as has a toe on the in bounds line within the first three quarters, pop should resign on the spot.
I feel confident it won't happen, but yeah. Series suicide right there.
Didn't realize early 2nd quarter minutes qualify as important. 5 minutes to see if he has it or if he can free up the offense. More often than not it works in short bursts.
You're a long time poster here, and I'm going to call you out. How in the could you make this statement. Tim was clearly the MVP of the first 3 rounds of the playoffs, with Manu being a close second. The Cavs were the easiest matchup for the Spurs in the whole of those playoffs. In the biggest games, Tim and Manu were the two that were huge in most of those wins.
Game 5 against the Suns on the road, Spurs were down 20 in the first half as the Suns started the game on an emotional high with the suspensions of Amare and Diaw. The crowd was howling, going nuts, and the Spurs came back to win that game. Tim started it all off with a monster 3rd quarter. He had a very good defender in Kurt Thomas guarding him, where he scored something like 10 plus points in a row on him to begin the 3rd. Bruce also hit a huge 3 in front of the Suns bench late in the 4th quarter to help get us that win (He also played stellar defense on Nash in the 4th quarter, Tony was taken off of him in nearly all those games in the 4th). Manu was huge against Denver on the road, he played pretty well in the Suns series and then had a big game in Utah on the road by getting to the rim in the 4th quarter, drawing fouls and hitting clutch free throws to get us back to San Antonio with a 3-1 lead.
Those two guys played awesome in the biggest games for the Spurs those playoffs. Don't ing go trying to tell any of us differently. If we had the current Duncan and Manu, Spurs would have lost in the first round against Denver with that version of TP as the leader of the team. Bruce and Horry were big too. TP was nowhere close to being the MVP of the team that year. Tim was the MVP of the whole playoffs in those first 3 rounds against all players. As for the Spurs playoff MVP, it wasn't even close between him and TP. It was Tim 1A and Manu 1B. TP I'd say was third most important player for the Spurs in those playoffs.
TP had a favorable matchup in the finals and that is all it was. The Spurs took advantage of it and exploited it. People really need to stop bringing that up as a plus for TP all the time, because it simply isn't.
Yup bonner is the answer
Read my post I just posted. I can't believe you're trying to continue on and justify your statement.
The argument shouldn't be Duncan vs Parker for the 1st option. TD was clearly the best player on the team. Led the team in scoring in the playoffs. First option against Nuggets/Jazz/Suns. It should be Parker vs Ginobili for the 2nd option.
Any minute in the WCF is important, especially early in the game. Please, stop with the Bonner suggestion, unless you're just trolling. Or would you get a kick out of Bonner serving up as a human launch pad for thunder players and getting anally raped by ibaka? You don't put the most unathletic player on the team against the most athletic team in the league in the early stages of the game and anything other than garbage time.
Manu easily wins over Parker too in the first 3 rounds of those playoffs against the tougher opponents. Manu was pretty big in those playoffs too. The only time Parker outplayed either of them is when he went up against a pretty bad defender in Gibson (I don't even remember his first name, that's how much of an advantage TP had). The Spurs simply exploited that matchup. Manu also came up clutch in the 4th quarters of game 3 and 4 on the road in Cleveland.
Against literally any other team but the long, athletic, speedy Thunder. Bonner's the fat kid on the playground trying to play dodgeball with the jocks against OKC.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the finals MVP only for the finals? Tony was pretty good in the sweep. The Spurs have not been about just one guy dominating for over 10 years. The 2005 squad had a lot of Manu mixed in with a less than 100% Duncan.
Well, this is a farce. Aren't the Spurs always about exploiting matchups? So TP's Finals MVP doesn't count because he exploited Cleveland's mismatches. While were at it, Lebron exploits matchups every game so his MVPs shouldn't count because everybody's a mismatch and Miami is just exploiting the mismatches and the Eastern Conference is so weak, Lebron gets to stat pad his numbers.
The Spurs were 25 seconds away from a championship last year with Parker as their best player. Yeah, it pains so many posters in here to hear that. If Ginobili or Leonard could knock down free throws, the Spurs win the championship led by point guard.
Last edited by Hoops Czar; 05-25-2014 at 11:58 PM.
I'm just trying to figure out how that's not a "plus" for TP. I'm not even making an argument for TP over Duncan or TP over Manu. I'm simply saying he's carried the team through many playoff series over his career. Why is it that his bigtime series performances are always written off?
The previous poster said that asking him to lead the Spurs to a le is too much to ask from a "mediocre" player. If Tony is mediocre after how much he's carried the Spurs over the past 5 years, then what does that make Tim and Manu?
People hate to admit it, but Tony led the Spurs to a championship last year. He's not the one that failed to grab a rebound. He's not the one that missed a critical free throw to seal the Spurs 5th le.
We're ed because we don't have a true superstar nor any real athleticism.
And worse than that, EVERY player on this team has a very volatile state of confidence. It doesn't take much at all for these guys to lose heart, and if a team is really going at them athletically on the defensive end, EVERY player on this team will give up on following through with shot attempts, throwing up weak instead and exacerbating the confidence/athleticism problem.
Ibaka coming back really mind- ed our guys and eroded our built-up confidence.
Frankly, it's sad how soft we are.
It's unfortunate that Tony Massenburg wasn't something like 25 years old back in 2005. I would love to have him on the team still as an enforcer. I really liked him and his role back then. Robert Horry's toughness was great too.
Hey look, Tony Parker was not responsible for the Spurs winning that Championship. He helped, but he sure as wasn't the best player on the team. That's the question I am answering. You guys can spin it anyway that you want. The answer to the question about who was the Spurs best player that season is - Tim and Manu 1A and 1B. Just because Tony won finals MVP doesn't mean he was the best player on the team as some people around here seem to think it is.
If he was the best player on the team back then, they would have lost in round 1.
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