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You don't execute soldiers for desertion. You can put them in prison, but execution is a bit harsh.
As they should. However, the allegation may be true or false, and they need to investigate.
Do you know what IF means?
You don't execute soldiers for desertion. You can put them in prison, but execution is a bit harsh.
Not when it's desertion in a combat zone.
That deserves a firing squad.
Like was pointed out, soldiers risked their lives looking for him. If he deserted, he needs to be executed.
They're mercenaries and they take the risk as part of their job. At any rate they shouldn't be there in the first place.
They were NOT going to investigate you bonehead...
Did you read the article?
There was no frrgn IF...
So anyone who signs up for the military is a mercenary?
And so now it's a risk.
And you conclude something morally reprehensible ? Jesus...
Then they must have investigated enough to conclude that he didn't bail on his unit.
Then why are they now investigating it?
I'm not reading the hourly updates.
Which is it?
Let me see if I have this right then.
They were not investigating before, and assumed him to have deserted. Maybe that's because he was presumed to never be found, so why waste the effort? Now that he's found, they wish to get to the truth.
Is that plausible? Sorry, but I'm not keeping a watch on their facebook page.
Pgardn...
Do you know the difference between dynamic and static? Do you expect things to be static when a dynamic changes?
I don't. Maybe that's part of your confusion. I also don't think what is written or quoted by the media is set in stone.
Therefor IF!
This. And pretty sure there was talks of investigation yesterday and he was arguing this whole time for no reason.
Read the articles, both of you. No Aztec you are wrong.
Let me help again.
His parents have been corresponding with him for years Cobra, he was not presumed dead.
His dad has been working on brining him back for 5 years with knowledge of the US.
Obama trades.
Press brings up a few of his fellow troops.
The military said 5 years is enough in captivity, no charges necessary.
His fellow soldiers keep bringing info to the press.
The military NOW decides they will investigate.
This is the basic time line fellas. The press has made a stink because his unit keeps giving more info, the military changes their tune. So why after he is dealt do we find out he might have deserted? If they investigated so thoroughly before they made the deal?
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Bowe Bergdahl’s Vanishing Before Capture Angered His Unit
Sometime after midnight on June 30, 2009, Pfc. Bowe Bergdahl left behind a note in his tent saying he had become disillusioned with the Army, did not support the American mission in Afghanistan and was leaving to start a new life. He slipped off the remote military outpost in Paktika Province on the border with Pakistan and took with him a soft backpack, water, knives, a notebook and writing materials, but left behind his body armor and weapons — startling, given the hostile environment around his outpost.
That account, provided by a former senior military officer briefed on the investigation into the private’s disappearance, is part of a more complicated picture emerging of the capture of a soldier whose five years as a Taliban prisoner influenced high-level diplomatic negotiations, brought in foreign governments, and ended with him whisked away on a helicopter by American commandos.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/03...?from=homepage
Sounding more and more like a deserter.
You guys are harsh. He might have just been looking for an Avante girlfriend.
Seriously, the guy was clearly a premeditated deserter. He even mailed his computer and other stuff home to his family the week before, left a note, and scooted.
I do find it humorous that this administration keeps stumbling into these "what the were they thinking?" moments. As more facts become known swapping 5 hardcore TBan for an apparent deserter the outrage just keeps growing.
In my opinion this wasn't even about Berghdahl, it was just an excuse to let the Taliban guys go in order to diplomatically grease the channels with the TBan. The US is leaving, Kharzai is a crook. Any chance of having any kind of "success" story come out of that hole will rely on brokering deals and negotiating with the TBan even though "the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists"...
do you think the WH didn't know about Bergie leaving of his own accord?
Do you think US should "execute" him w/o trial by letting him rot over there?
Sounds like the same right-wing assholes who about Cruising an American-turned-terrorist now whine about getting this guy back.
You just know the kid got converted.
If it turns out he deserted, this will not help his cause with the masses.
What a mess. It sounds like his parents don't realize what he is in for. Of course they want him back. But now with all the desertion stuff arising, do they realize what he might be in for. His dad learned two new languages just to be able to deal amicably with his captors. Dads beard is not something he grew on a whim, I don't think he is a Major League Baseball player. Or a James Harden fan...
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House Speaker John Boehner calls for hearings over Bowe Bergdahl release
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/0...gdahl-release/
Hearings! Hearings! Hearings! Hearings! Hearings! Hearings! Hearings! Hearings! Hearings! Hearings! Hearings! Hearings!
Repug Governance!
Well you certainly don't exchange 5 high level Taliban members for him. That is just beyond stupid.
I guess this shows Obama has the power to close gitmo whenever he wants.
Or he broke the law.
lol
In the US system soldiers fight for money. They know the risks when they sign up voluntarily. But unlike other jobs, they aren't allowed to quit whenever they want to.
This is in contrast to soldiers in other systems who are either drafted or required by law to enlist when they reach a certain age.
See how that works?
So it's morally reprehensible to join the military?
Is this how it works?
Holding 5 Taliban for terrorizing Afghans was stupid anyway...Bergdahl isn't the first US soldier to feel empathy for the citizens of Afghanistan and Iraq for the Bush Administration illegal invasion and occupation...
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