NBA: Rank these NBA Drafts: 1997, 1984, 2003, and 1996

[TDMVPDPOY]

u tellin a team of td, tmac and billups cant win?

tmac is not a winner, but he will accept banana role no problem

billups was a top5pg during his prime...

[lefty]

This. As I've said in other threads, the NBA has passed Kobe and the Lakers by. As Rick Carlisle said, "Slow play equals death." A team built around Kobe 25 times in the post will get massacred in today's game. Kobe might get his 30, but the Lakers will lose by 20.

It's why the Spurs don't run 4-down anymore, even though Tim could probably score 30 against Bosh in that scheme. All of Duncan's points now come off movement within the offense and the occasional jumper. The NBA is about system more than individual players matching up in ISO sets. It's why the Spurs were able to beat OKC relatively easily despite being much less talented. Heat are so good because they have Lebron, but they also have a system. Why it was so easy to plug Rashard Lewis in despite him not playing in months.

Nice clip, though. Belongs on the History Channel now as a relic of a bygone age

Mein negger

[TDMVPDPOY]

so ur saying 4down is not the reaosn why the spurs were able to beat the okc this year? duncan got his anytime he wanted, unless enrique is on the floor

[Clipper Nation]

Kobe scored 81 in a game... no roleplayers would ever do that. Never got the Kobe hate here tbh... he's a great player, an all-time great SG that'll be a first-ballot HOFer.

Kirby is nothing more than a role player on any team interested in winning, tbh.... selfish stat-padding and chucking on a bad team doesn't change that fact....

Jordan still the GOAT until LeBron gets 7 and looks like he brought his team most of the rings (Ray Allen won him it last year tbh).

Vanilla take, tbh.... Pippen (and Stern, for that matter) brought Dad Killer all his rings.... just look at DK's record without Scottie

[lefty]

just look at DK's record without Scottie

you mean when the Bulls had a very ty roster ?

[LkrFan]

You did it TWICE thugh. -10 points (discounted because I bet you can't count to 15 )

[LkrFan]

BnrFan still cracks me up despite his ty choice of favorite team

[Clipper Nation]

you mean when the Bulls had a very ty roster ?

182-228 all-time without Pippen

DK

[TheyCallMePro]

2003
1996
1984
1997

[Phillip]

WTF? Tim gave the team rebounding, assists, and great defense. Even when he was playing iso in the post, he would draw double and triple teams and find the open man. He was never a selfish, 30+ shots/game player. Even at his peak, he was known as a team player and sacrificed individual stats for the betterment of the team. He has always helped his team more than Kobe - and pretty much everyone else, for that matter.

I don't think that was his point. He was simply trying to say that the offense was very one-dimensional, and often slow and stagnant.

[ambchang]

Ranking the top players in those drafts:

MJ
Lebron
Duncan
Hakeem
Kobe
Barkley
Wade
Stockton
Iverson
TMac
Steve Nash
Ray Allen
Chauncey Billups
Melo
Bosh
Jermaine O'Neal
Sam Perkins
David West
Otis Thorpe
Antoine Walker

1984 is top heavy and sort of deep.
03 is top heavy with a bit of depth
96 is deep
97 basically only has one player.

[Phillip]

Good point made by someone to put 98 in as opposed to 97. Too lazy to go back and look who typed it.

3 likely HOFs in Dirk, Carter, and Pierce, and some really solid players and all-stars littered throughout in Rashard Lewis, Antawn Jamison, Mike Bibby, Brad Miller and Al Harrington. Probably one of the better drafts you will find.

[LkrFan]

Ranking the top players in those drafts:

MJ
Lebron
Duncan
Hakeem
Kobe
Barkley
Wade
Stockton
Iverson
TMac
Steve Nash
Ray Allen
Chauncey Billups
Melo
Bosh
Jermaine O'Neal
Sam Perkins
David West
Otis Thorpe
Antoine Walker

1984 is top heavy and sort of deep.
03 is top heavy with a bit of depth
96 is deep
97 basically only has one player.

How many all-time greats have lost back to back Finals? When it is Kobe (5-2) vs Duncan (4-2), get at me.

Like I told mid, there will be to pay. I bet not see any BNS ever ranking him above Kobe ever again. Especially with a BRONZE MEDAL on his resume.

[spurraider21]

How many all-time greats have lost back to back Finals? When it is Kobe (5-2) vs Duncan (4-2), get at me.

Like I told mid, there will be to pay. I bet not see any BNS ever ranking him above Kobe ever again. Especially with a BRONZE MEDAL on his resume.

I think Tim gets graded on a curve since his prime ended like 7 years ago and he's still putting up strong finals performances

[Seventyniner]

How many all star appearances, all NBA selections, and rangs does 1996 have - when compared to 2003? Do you see now why they're ranked higher? 1984 is in a class by themselves.

Of course 1996 has a better chance at those things than 2003. They had 7 more years to get them.

On the other hand, I don't see any players in the 1996 class getting any more ASGs, All-NBA, or rings. The 2003 class has room to run.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I think Tim gets graded on a curve since his prime ended like 7 years ago and he's still putting up strong finals performances

duncan puttinig up with fo and enrique bull , is what durant is basically going through....

[LkrFan]

I think Tim gets graded on a curve since his prime ended like 7 years ago and he's still putting up strong finals performances

A curve? Here's a fastball: Jim is the only HOFer that won a BRONZE MEDAL and lost back to back Finals. EVAAAAAAAA! BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

[midnightpulp]

How many all-time greats have lost back to back Finals? When it is Kobe (5-2) vs Duncan (4-2), get at me.

Like I told mid, there will be to pay. I bet not see any BNS ever ranking him above Kobe ever again. Especially with a BRONZE MEDAL on his resume.

How many all-time greats have lost back-to-back in the 1st round?

Oh, Kobe did that.

[LkrFan]

Of course 1996 has a better chance at those things than 2003. They had 7 more years to get them.

On the other hand, I don't see any players in the 1996 class getting any more ASGs, All-NBA, or rings. The 2003 class has room to run.

2003 - 7 = 1996. You are now the smartest farmer on yhe board. Cngrats

[spurraider21]

A curve? Here's a fastball: Jim is the only HOFer that won a BRONZE MEDAL and lost back to back Finals. EVAAAAAAAA! BAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

so it's worse on your legacy to lose in the finals than it is to lose in an early round?

[LkrFan]

How many all-time greats have lost back-to-back in the 1st round?

Oh, Kobe did that.

And it's STILL Kobe 5, Jim 2.

[midnightpulp]

I think Tim gets graded on a curve since his prime ended like 7 years ago and he's still putting up strong finals performances

Kirby fans are getting desperate, thinking making back-to-back Finals against at 37/38 is somehow a bad thing. If anything, it just widens the gap between Tim and Kirby.

Next year, Kirby will have led the Lakers to the lottery for the 3rd time since '05. Does any all-time great have that on their resume?

[Seventyniner]

2003 - 7 = 1996. You are now the smartest farmer on yhe board. Cngrats

It was your idea to compare 2003 to 1996 using things like (current) total ASG, All-NBA, and ring counts.

[LkrFan]

so it's worse on your legacy to lose in the finals than it is to lose in an early round?

Yes. Especially when your 28.2 seconds from shutting up all Laker Fans.

Besides, was a deep playoff run expected with Smush, Brian Cook, Puke Walton, and Chris ing Mihm on your roster? Try again son.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol kirby fans taking credit win for a gold medal he played no part in, just like the shaq 3peat lakers and paus b2b championships