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Never took any.
What causes your violent thoughts?
Speaking of lol non-answers...
Never took any.
What causes your violent thoughts?
Too much congoid behavior in the limelight.
Foolish of me to think all basement dwellers are on ssri's.
My violent thoughts are caused by a number of things. Stubbing my toe, running out of beer after the store closes, getting up early for work, working the occasional Saturday, yard work when its hot out, traffic, stepping in dog , blue balls, missing a two foot putt, ammo prices, losing a Dorado....I could go on forever.
Are you trying to argue that ssri's do not alter the mind? Do you truly think they haven' contributed to any of these school shootings? Have you done any research of your own?
I've never taken any ssri's. Maybe someone here who has can speak to us on the effects on their mindstate.
well if they're on meds, then there is a mental illness there, right? whats the solution? take them off the meds and let them run crazy? i think a lot of these killers weren't taking their meds and seeing their doctors like they were supposed to, which is why they went and did the things they did.
Mentally unstable losers wanting to go out in a blaze of glory and be nationally famous. If the media was forbidden from publishing their name and picture and required to report it as "another loser bag shoots up a school" this would stop almost immediately.
International Journal of Risk & Safety in Medicine 16 (2003/2004) 31–49 31
IOS Press
Suicidality, violence and mania caused by
selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors
(SSRIs): A review and analysis
Peter R. Breggin
http://www.breggin.com/31-49.pdf
10. Conclusions
There are many reports and studies confirming that SSRI antidepressants can cause violence, suicide,
mania and other forms of psychotic and bizarre behavior. Overall, the SSRIs produce violence, suicide
and extremes of abnormal behavior by a variety of mechanisms. Teicher et al. [72] suggest nine possible
mechanisms: (1) energizing the depressed and suicidal patient, (2) paradoxically worsening the
individual’s depression, (3) causing akathisia, (4) causing panic and anxiety, (5) causing manic or mixed
manic-depressive states, (6) causing insomnia or disturbances in the sleep architecture, (7) causing obsessive
suicidal preoccupations, (8) causing borderline states with hostility, and (9) causing alterations in
EEG activity. Teicher et al. do ent each of these phenomena in their review of the literature and, as
this paper indicates, the scientific evidence has grown considerably stronger in the intervening decade.
With the exception of the alteration in EEG activity, my clinical and forensic work has confirmed that
each of above SSRI- and NSRI-induced phenomena can cause violent and suicidal behavior. However,
my clinical and forensic experiences and reviews of the literature indicate that four syndromes encompass
most of the phenomena and describe most of the individual cases:
(1) The production of a stimulant continuum that often begins with lesser degrees of insomnia, nervousness,
anxiety, hyperactivity and irritability and then progresses toward more severe agitation,
aggression, and varying degrees of mania. Mania or manic-like symptoms include disinhibition,
grandiosity, sleep disturbances, and out-of-control aggressive behavior, including cycling into depression
and suicidality.
(2) The production of a combined state of stimulation and depression – an agitated depression – with
a high risk of suicide and violence. Often the overall depression is markedly worsened.
(3) The production of obsessive preoccupations with aggression against self or others, often accompanied
by a worsening of any pre-existing depression.
(4) The production of akathisia, an inner agitation or jitteriness that is usually (but not always) accompanied
by an inability to stop moving. It is sometimes described as psyc tor agitation
or restless leg syndrome. The state causes heightened irritability and frustration with aggression
against self or others, and often a generally worsening of the mental condition.
The above syndromes often appear in combination with each other. Often the syndromes will abate
within days after stopping the SSRI but sometimes they persist, leading to hospitalization and additional
treatment over subsequent weeks or months. Reported rates for these syndromes very widely but each
of them appears to be relatively common. They frequently occur in individuals with no prior history of
violence, suicidality, psyc tor agitation, or manic-like symptoms.
That would be nice, but I doubt it's that simple.
Schools have turned degenerate and horrible over the past few years imho, and crimes are just an epitome of the grand deterioration. Students cheating in exams, es flirting all over the campus wearing skirts/shorts that barely cover up their butts. School ain't no strip club but it already seems like a de facto one due to the prevalence of young horny es... es should've never been permitted to go to school, to begin with.
Everything you listed is common among youth in other developed countries too.
You may not want this to be a gun thread but it is the biggest differentiating factor.
Reuptake Inhibitors and the pressure of being young and having a way too avenue in creating an outlet of pain. You have to imagine when the late twenty-somethings and the people in the 30's were the tail end where anonymity was still attainable. Now you can cyber bully on top of being bullied in the flesh. You didn't have this issue all that much in the 90's. Though, mass shootings have always been around the amount that are happening in the schoolyard or college campus has become alarming. The lax security on most colleges make it a prime target for those who are not playing with a full deck (Virginia Tech/Sandy Hook) or those with some perceived grudge (Isla Vista/Santa Monica)
Exactly.... the 24-hour news cycle all but glorifying the killers only serves to inspire copycats....
Bad parenting and TV and internet baby sitters.
Parents are not allowed to spank their kids when they are disrespectful or bad anymore because the government will take them away from them IMHO.
I guarantee you if I even uttered that I was going to go postal when I was a kid, I got a beating.
And I was taught to respect my elders regardless of race, gender, or religion.
For me, this has carried over to the internet as well, but a great many kids do not respect anyone, especially on the internet where they can HIDE behind their computers.
Many of these juvenile delinquents have grown up and are now raising their own batch of juvenile delinquents.
Just look at the trolls on this site for all the proof you need.
Beating your kids is not a solution.
Being raised in America is not common to being raised in any other developed country.
How do these kids get the guns
The same way kids got guns in the 1920's, 1940's, 1970's etc.
Which is what?
You're a smart guy Blake I'm sure you can figure out how a kid of any decade would obtain a gun.
All my dwellings are above ground. Why are you so snarky?
We're talking about people who already have mental conditions. Are you saying SSNs are more responsible than their actual mental conditions? I'm not prepared to take that leap blindly.My violent thoughts are caused by a number of things. Stubbing my toe, running out of beer after the store closes, getting up early for work, working the occasional Saturday, yard work when its hot out, traffic, stepping in dog , blue balls, missing a two foot putt, ammo prices, losing a Dorado....I could go on forever.
Are you trying to argue that ssri's do not alter the mind? Do you truly think they haven' contributed to any of these school shootings? Have you done any research of your own?
I've never taken any ssri's. Maybe someone here who has can speak to us on the effects on their mindstate.
Seriously.
A guy with a mental condition is suicidal. He is put on meds. He commits suicide. Which is more likely to be the precipitating factor -- the meds or the condition that caused the suicidal thoughts in the first place?
I'm not saying it's out of the realm of possibilitiy -- but your Avantelist basically ascribes all blame to meds.
Yup, plenty of ways anyone clever could get their hands on a gun.
I think the gaping flaws in Bowling for Columbine overshadowed the final message of the film. It isn't just the availability of guns that is the problem. Moore chalked it up mainly to fear but I think it goes beyond that. There is something about Americans that make them more likely to think a problem can be solved by shooting someone else than other places.
Guns seem like the cool thing to these losers but take them away and they'll do even more deadly things like bombings
Idiots like this will find the easiest way to murder. Guns. You actually need some brains go build bombs and plan an attack.
Cool story from a Canadian...how did gun grabbing work out for you all recently?
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