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    Diaw is only 32. He has at least 3 more good years in him left. Guys with high BB IQs like Diaw are hard to come by.

    Mills is not getting 8 mil a year. I don't see anyone throwing Lin type of money for a guy that has been more of a spot up shooter in the Spurs system and hasn't shown he could be the starting PG on a team night in and night out. At most, he will get the full MLE.
    Parker could talk Diaw to take the same $ as this year 4.5M

    I wouldn't be mad at Patty taking the MLE, he won us enough games this season... Without him, there's no homecourt, tbh

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    Thanks for clearing that up, got confused.

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    Diaw is a must-keep. Mills would be a nice player to keep, but I just don't see him as having a future with the Spurs post-Manu. He's getting better at being a PG, but he's still not good enough to back up Parker as the sole play-maker with the second unit (even with Diaw). Sure, if the Spurs draft a Kyle Anderson or a Bogdan Bogdanovic this season (and he pans out), they could perhaps get away with it again. But I'd hate to hear that the Spurs were knocked out of the Aldridge/Love/Bosh (/Gasol for those who like him) sweepstakes because they were short a Mills contract-worth of cap space.

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    Diaw is a must-keep. Mills would be a nice player to keep, but I just don't see him as having a future with the Spurs post-Manu. He's getting better at being a PG, but he's still not good enough to back-up Parker as the sole play-maker with the second unit (even with Diaw). Sure, if the Spurs draft a Kyle Anderson or a Bogdan Bogdanovic, they could perhaps get away with it again. But I'd hate to hear that the Spurs were knocked out of the Aldridge/Love/Bosh (/Gasol for those who like him) sweepstakes because they were short a Mills contract in cap space.
    I don't want this to be the 2011 Mavs. You don't know if the Spurs can sign any of those guys. The Spurs are prime to make a run next year and possibly for a year after that if Duncan and Manu decide to stay for two more years. Spurs could always use Mills as trade bait in a sign and trade.

    Mill has such a positive at ude, its infectious on this team. Spurs have only 8.5mil in Salaries committed for 2015 (Splitter). Kawhi and CoJo are Qualifying offers. Resigning Mills and Diaw would have zero impact on signing the players you mentioned considering that Parker, Duncan, and Manu would sign for less they are making right now if they came back.

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    Diaw is a must-keep. Mills would be a nice player to keep, but I just don't see him as having a future with the Spurs post-Manu. He's getting better at being a PG, but he's still not good enough to back up Parker as the sole play-maker with the second unit (even with Diaw). Sure, if the Spurs draft a Kyle Anderson or a Bogdan Bogdanovic this season (and he pans out), they could perhaps get away with it again. But I'd hate to hear that the Spurs were knocked out of the Aldridge/Love/Bosh (/Gasol for those who like him) sweepstakes because they were short a Mills contract-worth of cap space.
    Shabazz Napier could fill in for Patty if Spurs decide to go in the Gasol sweepstake

    Although I'd rather see Spurs keep Patty and pick up Cleanthony Early... Spurs don't need to make a lot of changes. Parker can comeback healthier next year and the Spurs could go for #6 *knocks on wood*

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    I don't want this to be the 2011 Mavs. You don't know if the Spurs can sign any of those guys. The Spurs are prime to make a run next year and possibly for a year after that if Duncan and Manu decide to stay for two more years. Spurs could always use Mills as trade bait in a sign and trade.

    Mill has such a positive at ude, its infectious on this team. Spurs have only 8.5mil in Salaries committed for 2015 (Splitter). Kawhi and CoJo are Qualifying offers. Resigning Mills and Diaw would have zero impact on signing the players you mentioned considering that Parker, Duncan, and Manu would sign for less they are making right now if they came back.
    I've done this math time and again. The Spurs won't have room for one max contract if they just bring back their starting lineup minus Duncan and plus Diaw at reasonable rates. That was before Boris' great playoffs. That was projecting Leonard at $10 Million in 2015 instead of the $14 Million he's now likely to get. It's going to be a struggle getting any cap space together now.

    Also, Mills is not Tyson Chandler. At best, he's JJ Barea, whose departure from Dallas had little real impact.

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    I've done this math time and again. The Spurs won't have room for one max contract if they just bring back their starting lineup minus Duncan and plus Diaw at reasonable rates. That was before Boris' great playoffs. That was projecting Leonard at $10 Million in 2015 instead of the $14 Million he's now likely to get. It's going to be a struggle getting any cap space together now.

    Also, Mills is not Tyson Chandler. At best, he's JJ Barea, whose departure from Dallas had little real impact.
    Still think Spurs and Leonard will agree closer to 5 for 60 oppose to the max. IMO. Time will tell.

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    It's not so much as "we have to keep Diaw". To me it's more like, Diaw is exactly the type of player that Pop totally drools over, so in my mind there is no way in Pop lets him go this summer (or anytime soon) anyway. I can see him hold onto Diaw the same way he held onto the Red Mamba all these years.

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    Shabazz Napier could fill in for Patty if Spurs decide to go in the Gasol sweepstake

    Although I'd rather see Spurs keep Patty and pick up Cleanthony Early... Spurs don't need to make a lot of changes. Parker can comeback healthier next year and the Spurs could go for #6 *knocks on wood*
    Don't like Early, and I think that's a 2014-only approach. If the Spurs want to remain compe ive in 2015, they're going to need to only snag a third star (preferably at PF) but they'll also need to fill out the rest of their rotation with only about $10 Million. That means they have to not only draft good players but also draft good players at different positions. With Jean-Charles and Bertans, SF is spoken for, and between LJC and Diaw, PF is spoken for as well. So there's no point in drafting another forward, in my opinion.

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    Diaw is only 32. He has at least 3 more good years in him left. Guys with high BB IQs like Diaw are hard to come by.

    Mills is not getting 8 mil a year. I don't see anyone throwing Lin type of money for a guy that has been more of a spot up shooter in the Spurs system and hasn't shown he could be the starting PG on a team night in and night out. At most, he will get the full MLE.
    This is correct. Mills has a nice jump shot and no question he has given our team a spark. But let's not forget he is an undersized shooting guard who can't create for others. I think several teams would like to have him, but I also don't think he is much more than a back up point guard in this league. And no one pays big money for a backup point guard unless they are morons. That should keep him from signing with only half the teams in the NBA, though.

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    I would gladly welcome LeBron or Durant to the Spurs as I think they are good coachable players who want to improve, win les, and would listen to Pop as they have tremendous respect for him.

    Melo, even if you gave him to us for free, I wouldn't want him on the Spurs.
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    It should be an interesting offseason, i wouldnt pay diaw anything other than a one year deal. For patty, i think he should go.
    Classic ty post, tbh.

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    Should throw in another extension to Tim and Manu in the process... let them retire when they want...

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    Re-signing Patty would take a deal around 5 million a year. Backups don't make that much. If he was smart, he'd go to another team that would be willing to pay him more and start.

    Boris is easier because he's older. Less teams will want his services, and the Spurs can convince him to sign for something like 2 years/16 mil.

    Leonard and Parker are eligible for extensions this summer. They are our 2 best players. They'll be taken care of first and what's left will go into re-signing Diaw and Mills. But more so Diaw because Cojo is behind Mills.
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    We will find out who wants to be a Spur and who's chasing money.

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    Tim has until June 24th to pick up his $10.3 million player option for next season..

    http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014...ording-sources
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    Re-signing Patty would take a deal around 5 million a year. Backups don't make that much. If he was smart, he'd go to another team that would be willing to pay him more and start.

    Boris is easier because he's older. Less teams will want his services, and the Spurs can convince him to sign for something like 2 years/16 mil.

    Leonard and Parker are eligible for extensions this summer. They are our 2 best players. They'll be taken care of first and what's left will go into re-signing Diaw and Mills. But more so Diaw because Cojo is behind Mills.
    Parker's been eligible for an extension since the beginning of the season.

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    We should keep both, I agree.

    But honestly I don't believe that a big contract will be offered to Diaw. Yes he's an extreme player, has a great BB IQ and it's fun to watch him. But he can be a good fit for the contenders only. I don't think that a lottery team will make an offer to him and I don't see that any contender can offer him full MLE.

    And Mills. I think 3 years 8 million contract would be enough to sign with him.

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    It should be an interesting offseason, i wouldnt pay diaw anything other than a one year deal. For patty, i think he should go.
    Stupid take, imo.

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    I've done this math time and again. The Spurs won't have room for one max contract if they just bring back their starting lineup minus Duncan and plus Diaw at reasonable rates. That was before Boris' great playoffs. That was projecting Leonard at $10 Million in 2015 instead of the $14 Million he's now likely to get. It's going to be a struggle getting any cap space together now.

    Also, Mills is not Tyson Chandler. At best, he's JJ Barea, whose departure from Dallas had little real impact.
    I think it's becoming clear they won't go for the max FA strategy now, they're most likely in a better position to trade for that PF (either as a draft pick or as a veteran)... If they trade for a pick, they could use the Love/Melo fever going on right now, besides a draft pick is probably need two years to be ready so they'd have to do it this year.

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    Yeah, let's not keep this guy, he hasn't done anything note-worthy.

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    http://giant.gfycat.com/WarmSpitefulGalah

    Yep. Hasn't earned anything.

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    Yeah, let's not keep this guy, he hasn't done anything note-worthy.
    This isn't mentioning he was top ten in steals per 36 min in the nba as well.

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    Stupid take, imo.
    what do you think we should do? be specific please.

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    Yeah, let's not keep this guy, he hasn't done anything note-worthy.
    except he's not a point guard.

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