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    The South Dakota House has passed a bill that would nearly ban all abortions in the state, ushering the issue to the state Senate.

    Supporters are pushing the measure in hopes of drawing a legal challenge that will cause the US Supreme Court to reverse its 1973 decision legalizing abortion.

    The bill banning all abortions in South Dakota was passed 47-to-22 in the House.

    Amendments aimed at carving out exemptions for rape, incest and the health of women were rejected.

    The bill does contain a loophole that allows abortions if women are in danger of dying. Doctors who do those abortions could not be prosecuted.

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    South Dakota has a right to pass that law...

    We'll see what the Cons ution says about it THIS decade.

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    South Dakota has a right to pass that law...

    We'll see what the Cons ution says about it THIS decade.
    I suspect it'll say the same thing in 2006 as it did in 1973, "No person shall be...deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law..."

    Now, if we can get the Supreme Court to officially recognize an unborn child as a person.

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    Does anybody actually live in South Dakota?

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    Now, if we can get the Supreme Court to officially recognize an unborn child as a person.
    A conservative court won't find that in the Cons ution; these are not activist Judges. They might not, however, stop a legislature (State or Federal) from doing just that.

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    A conservative court won't find that in the Cons ution; these are not activist Judges. They might not, however, stop a legislature (State or Federal) from doing just that.
    Works for me.

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    i need to invest in coathanger companies
    By all means...

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    i need to invest in coathanger companies
    I provide a swift stomach kick service to the teens in my neighborhood. Research shows that teens would rather get kicked than stick a sharp metal hanger in their vagina.

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    OR, chicks can keep their legs closed, or keep on the pill, and demand the prick wear a rubber. Oh the horror!

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    Yeah, and all those rape victims should just lie back and enjoy it.

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    Yeah, and all those rape victims should just lie back and enjoy it.
    I'm not sure what the crime has to do with abortion. Or, why an unborn child should be executed for the misdeed of another.

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    By all means -- let's force a woman to carry to term and raise the baby conceived when she was raped by a family member.

    You're such a complete idiot I know you must favor making the rape victim a victim all over again for the rest of her life.

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    Everyone should know that coathangers are old-fashioned. An abortion can be induced by readily available drugs.

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    By all means -- let's force a woman to carry to term and raise the baby conceived when she was raped by a family member.

    You're such a complete idiot I know you must favor making the rape victim a victim all over again for the rest of her life.
    It's called adoption...and, it doesn't kill the baby.

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    It's called adoption...and, it doesn't kill the baby.
    So who's in line to adopt inbred birth-defect babies?

    How many have you adopted?

    If every HEALTHY kid up for adoption was adopted you might have a point.

    They don't, so you don't.

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    So who's in line to adopt inbred birth-defect babies?

    How many have you adopted?
    People are lined up around the block to adopt unwanted children. Gee, I can't remember the last time 60 minutes, or 20/20, or Nightline, or any of the other sensational tabloid television shows did a story on "inbred birth-defect babies."

    Many rape victims carry their babies to term and place them for adoption. You'd think there would be an expose on all the "inbred birth-defect babies."

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    But hey, let's argue over the less than 1% of all abortions sought under the duress of incest and rape and ignore the elephant in the living room...

    Over 99% of all abortions are CONVENIENCE abortions.

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    People are lined up around the block to adopt unwanted children.
    Numbers please.
    Many rape victims carry their babies to term and place them for adoption.
    Numbers.
    Over 99% of all abortions are CONVENIENCE abortions.
    Did I say anything about them, dip ?

    That law will just end up killing alot more mothers AND unborn kids. Or bus rides to Minnesota.

    That they won't even give the option to victims of rape and incest is obscene.

    How many rape-incest babies did you adopt again?

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    Did I say anything about them, dip ?
    Yeah, you'd rather defend a woman's right to kill her unborn child on the basis of exceptions instead of the rule.

    That law will just end up killing alot more mothers AND unborn kids.
    I'll bet they take a while to top the almost 50 million unborn children killed since 1973.

    Or bus rides to Minnesota.
    Yeah, I'm sure Minnesota will want to be known as the "Abortion State."

    That they won't even give the option to victims of rape and incest is obscene.
    Killing an innocent child is unconscienable. I'd rather they kill the rapist...but, I'll bet you're opposed to the Death Penalty, aren't you?

    How many rape-incest babies did you adopt again?
    I'm not sure they list that on the adoption forms. But, it's irrelevant anyway.

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    Okay, Einstein; answer this.

    How many women died, per year, of abortion-related complications prior to 1973?

    After?

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    Yeah, you'd rather defend a woman's right to kill her unborn child on the basis of exceptions instead of the rule.
    No, I'd rather respect the wishes of a rape victim to not carry a baby to term against her will. You'd rather put her in jail.
    I'll bet you're opposed to the Death Penalty, aren't you?
    Wrong again.
    Yeah, I'm sure Minnesota will want to be known as the "Abortion State."
    They're going to go somewhere. Or kill themselves with coathangers again. I understand you'd rather have mothers die along with their fetuses.
    'm not sure they list that on the adoption forms. But, it's irrelevant anyway.
    So you're saying you haven't adopted any kids. And it's completely relevant. Adoptive parents know if their potential adoptees have birth defects or drug dependencies, don't they? They don't just get on a list and have the next kid in line show up FedEx.

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    Okay, Einstein; answer this.

    How many women died, per year, of abortion-related complications prior to 1973?

    After?
    You can Google as well as I can.

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    Or kill themselves with coathangers again.
    You know this is largely an urban legend, right? Just how many women do you suppose died of "coathanger" abortions before they Roe v. Wade?

    And, why do you think illegal abortions would resort to such primitive means when there are now proven " tails" and less extreme means by which to terminate a pregnancy -- even illegally.

    I understand you'd rather have mothers die along with their fetuses.
    Actually, I'd rather everyone live.

    So you're saying you haven't adopted any kids. And it's completely relevant.
    No, because I have enough of my own.

    Adoptive parents know if their potential adoptees have birth defects or drug dependencies, don't they? They don't just get on a list and have the next kid in line show up FedEx.
    First, where do you get the idea that incest leads to birth defects? Not that I'm condoning the practice. (hint: another urban legend) Second, why would you jump to the conclusion that a rape-induced pregnancy would also produce a drug dependent child? Odd.

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    You know this is largely an urban legend, right?
    How do you know?
    And, why do you think illegal abortions would resort to such primitive means when there are now proven " tails" and less extreme means by which to terminate a pregnancy -- even illegally.
    Because some teenage girls can't afford tails.
    No, because I have enough of my own.
    Nice of you to step up and put your money where your mouth is.
    First, where do you get the idea that incest leads to birth defects? Not that I'm condoning the practice.
    Sure you are -- if it produces a baby that you wouldn't adopt.[/QUOTE]Second, why would you jump to the conclusion that a rape-induced pregnancy would also produce a drug dependent child? [QUOTE]Where did you get your birth defect, idiot?

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    You know this is largely an urban legend, right? Just how many women do you suppose died of "coathanger" abortions before they Roe v. Wade?
    Let me answer this one for you.

    In 1972 -- the year before Roe v. Wade made abortions legal -- there were 39 deaths reported due to illegal abortions. There we 88 total -- due to legal and illegal abortions. So, in effect, in the year prior to it becoming legal, more women died of complication due to legal abortions than due to illegal ones.

    And, before you go off on the tangent of "how could they be receiving 'legal' abortions before Roe v. Wade," these were legal due to exceptions under the laws of the various states.

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