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    They JUST did it last year with LJC!!! You also don't pay them while they are stashed, and under contract to another team.
    Thanks for the clarification. That explains the situation that happened with Tiago Splitter too.

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    The odds are, though, that the Spurs won't draft any of the above players now that they're being discussed in SpursTalk.

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    The odds are, though, that the Spurs won't draft any of the above players now that they're being discussed in SpursTalk.
    True, true

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    DX posted some new stat breakdowns... The Power Forward page is especially interesting with Jokic and Bairstow (who also worked out for them) being surprinsingly high in a number of categories :

    http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...ard-Crop-4610/

    Jokic is the assist leader even above Saric, he's also the true shooting % leader above Capela (who mostly dunks) and he shoots the 4th most 3 pointers...

    I'd bet the house on Jokic being the first rounder at this point... Hopefully they trade for another pick.
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    The reason most mock sites are all over the place is the fact that this is a deep draft. If you go by Tier system, you have a few Franchise players... several Starters... then a whole ton of Role Players that could be taken in any order based on team need.

    I would personally try to move up and go for Clint Capela or Elfrid Payton

    Or stay put and get Inglis, Bogdanovic, or Tavares.

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    ^ A numbers of us were big on Payton when he was projected in the late 20s but now he's projected as early as 8... His stock is just too high to even trade up for him imo.

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    that's true... I just don't really want any PGs other than him

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    It should be noted that the players' stocks are not actually changing this much. It's just the media's guess as to what teams are thinking that changes. If Payton goes in the top 10, it will be because some team has long thought he was worth a top-10 pick, not because DX moved him up in their mock.

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    It should be noted that the players' stocks are not actually changing this much. It's just the media's guess as to what teams are thinking that changes. If Payton goes in the top 10, it will be because some team has long thought he was worth a top-10 pick, not because DX moved him up in their mock.
    Obviously the mocks leading up to the draft are more about inside info and guessing right than rating prospects but I dont know about "long thought" when workouts can pretty much decide everything.

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    It should be noted that the players' stocks are not actually changing this much. It's just the media's guess as to what teams are thinking that changes. If Payton goes in the top 10, it will be because some team has long thought he was worth a top-10 pick, not because DX moved him up in their mock.
    I am surprised you have to mention this, but I guess there are some out there who are not aware of this.

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    Anderson, slight possiblity, but Saric is scheduled to go top 10.
    I like Kyle Anderson but he looks like he's playing in slow motion.his size and release make him interesting as a small ball 4 though.

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    I don't see the Spurs moving anyone unless they know something we don't like Boris or Patty not returning but even so nobody is going to come in and fill a need during there rookie season. It's more than likely to be a Euro who they can stash and monitor, either a combo guard to replace Manu in a few seasons or a stretch 4/5
    I think that with the talent available in the middle of the second round,they'd consider moving up or acquiring a 3rd second rounder. If Micic really falls to the second round (all but Draft Net has him higher than 39th) They could take someone like McGary with the 30th and stash the other 3 picks or sign one to a Blair deal on the cheap.

    As for Cojo, the Spurs could replace him a veteran PG who is slightly cheaper (like Udrih). The Spurs could still resign Mills. 3 point guards came in handy this season and will likely next year.


    If the Spurs don't stash, i agree that the player they bringing wouldn't likely be a player who can contribute next year.

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    Obviously the mocks leading up to the draft are more about inside info and guessing right than rating prospects but I dont know about "long thought" when workouts can pretty much decide everything.
    Nah. Workouts mean almost nothing. It's all about -season scouting. Workouts just confirm what teams already knew.

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    I'd only trade Joseph for another PG. I could be persuaded that Micic/Napier for three or four cheap years makes more sense than Joseph for one cheapish year, but I'd be irked if the team ended up with only Parker and the hope Mills returned.

    As to the rest of your post, do we know what happened to McAdoo? He fell off a cliff this year and hopefully stayed in school, but I heard nothing about that. If he's in, I'd like to see him as one of the second-rounders.
    I think one of those sites had him in the 40s. I thought at one point he was considered to be near the lottery level. I dont watch much college ball so i couldn't tell you.

    The Spurs definitely need 3 Pgs, I like Cojo but I think he can be replaced with a vet point guard for slightly cheaper than his 2.1 million. I still think Mills will return, maybe even if it's on a 1+1 David West type of deal.

    If they believe they can resign Mills and they like a prospect in the middle of the 2nd, i wouldn't be shocked if he is moved. Philly has 5 second rounders, i'd think they'd be ok with moving one for a 3rd year guard with some useful skills, instead of someone that may never even play in the NBA.

    I was thinking about the Dejuan Blair deal, which is basically to the type your mentioned.

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    Nah. Workouts mean almost nothing. It's all about -season scouting. Workouts just confirm what teams already knew.
    Wouldn't be so definitive about the whole thing... The Greek Freak wasn't selected due to his regular season and a lot of others weren't...

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    Wouldn't be so definitive about the whole thing... The Greek Freak wasn't selected due to his regular season and a lot of others weren't...
    Yes he was. His agent sent tapes to all the teams. He was already a mid-first-rounder before the combine.

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    Now Joel Embiid might have broken his foot. I wonder how far he will fall.

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    What people will do to keep from playing in Cleveland.

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    Now Joel Embiid might have broken his foot. I wonder how far he will fall.
    I could see Philly taking him at #2 because they could just tank another year. Kind of like they did with Noel. Then again, a scoring SF like Parker is a great fit for their roster.

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    What people will do to keep from playing in Cleveland.

    You should have posted this in blue font, some on here will maybe believe you.

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    Yes he was. His agent sent tapes to all the teams. He was already a mid-first-rounder before the combine.
    I think it's 75-25 on average and can vary on an individual basis. The Bucks have said they wouldn't have taken him if they only could rely on the tapes...

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    I think it's 75-25 on average and can vary on an individual basis. The Bucks have said they wouldn't have taken him if they only could rely on the tapes...
    So they had to confirm what they knew... It works both ways, teams also bring in guys for workouts they never intend to draft just to make sure their boards are set. Or you can have a situation like with the Spurs when they brought him in for a workout even though the media thought he was going to be a lottery pick.

    Of course it can vary. If someone looks unathletic on tape but tests really well at the combine, that makes a difference. Vice-versa as well. But players don't really shoot up boards like the media says they do. The media instead just catches up to what teams are thinking.

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    My favorite was Porzings, but he wouldn't fall to SA (OKC would probably take him) and now he is out of the draft.

    Right now I am also in the Micic bandwagon. I like Inglis, but Micic is definitely a better pick with the 30th pick. I wouldn't mind Glen Robinson III as well. I think he is getting overlooked. He is still a great prospect, especially if you can get him with the 30th pick.

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    I think OKC has made someone a promise, just a hunch.

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    If we had to choose between these players, Clint Capella would be my choice.

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