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    Splitter proved his worth vs Dallas and Portland.
    Splitter did not prove he was 10 times better against Blair. Anyone who says that, is lying, and thinking too much with heart, and too little with head.

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    And he proved he wasnt worth 10 million a year getting worked in the WCF and F...

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    I can't believe people actually think Splitter is worth Gortat money

    http://youtu.be/QL307vascww

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    Splitter will only get better. Had a dream he and Duncan were laughing hysterically as they celebrated a championship in the closing moments of a Finals, wearing their home jerseys. Knew it wasn't GM5. Has to be next year....

    As for Diaw.... needs to get PAID by PATFO.
    Last edited by .G.; 06-22-2014 at 10:46 PM. Reason: Splitter's not a spitter.

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    no he didnt. Spurs FO shat the bed and valued him much higher than they should have. There isnt really another way to look at it.
    He received precisely his market value. That's really indisputable. You can argue that the Spurs should have let him walk rather than paying his market value, but you can't argue that he was paid more than his market value.

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    Splitter did not prove he was 10 times better against Blair. Anyone who says that, is lying, and thinking too much with heart, and too little with head.
    Splitter helped keep Dirk in check against Dallas. Also kept Aldridge in check against Portland.

    Miami and OKC are bad matchups for Splitter, which is why he went to the bench in the Finals.

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    He received precisely his market value. That's really indisputable. You can argue that the Spurs should have let him walk rather than paying his market value, but you can't argue that he was paid more than his market value.
    No, it is not indisputable, even with your trash connotation on "market value" First of all, there is no way to know his "true market value" in a capped salary system like the NBA. Some trash team could have offered him higher had they not been over cap, or any cap. So really we could argue MARKET VALUE for days.

    You keep saying MARKET value, when MARKET VALUE means the value that he would get in an OPEN MARKET. I understand what you are trying to do, get people to argue with you about MARKET VALUE and then claim that MARKET VALUE is the price that the spurs paid for him, but that's technically, not the whole truth on MARKET VALUE.

    Interesting how you keep talking about trolls on here....

    In other news, yes, the Spurs overpaid for Splitter and should have let him walk so his conceived MARKET VALUE would be lower.

    it's sad that you try to do this

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    I almost expect a copy and pasted definition of market value

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    If you have to overpay a bit to keep Boris then so be it. We can't afford to not re-sign him, he's too important to our team's success. I'd hate to lose Patty but Diaw is more important. Hopefully we find a way to retain both.

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    Splitter is not fancy but he gets the job done he has excellent hands is a smart player and is getting better. Would you rather have Splitter or a nut case like Cousins who makes how much? I think this was the break out season for him he will get more minutes next year and will help win games.

    I don't know why everyone is getting all worked up about Diaw and Patty both will be signed to Spurs friendly contracts.

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    No, it is not indisputable, even with your trash connotation on "market value" First of all, there is no way to know his "true market value" in a capped salary system like the NBA. Some trash team could have offered him higher had they not been over cap, or any cap. So really we could argue MARKET VALUE for days.

    You keep saying MARKET value, when MARKET VALUE means the value that he would get in an OPEN MARKET. I understand what you are trying to do, get people to argue with you about MARKET VALUE and then claim that MARKET VALUE is the price that the spurs paid for him, but that's technically, not the whole truth on MARKET VALUE.

    Interesting how you keep talking about trolls on here....

    In other news, yes, the Spurs overpaid for Splitter and should have let him walk so his conceived MARKET VALUE would be lower.

    it's sad that you try to do this
    Wow.

    Splitter was a restricted free agent last summer.

    He offered his services on the open market.

    Portland prepared an offer sheet for 4yrs/36 million dollars.

    That was his market value.

    Splitter gave the Spurs the chance to offer an equal contract before he signed the offer sheet.

    They did and he signed it.

    So you can argue that they should have let Portland pay him the 4/36 and moved on without him, but Splitter was getting a contract for 4/36 one way or the other. That was his market value.

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    If you have to overpay a bit to keep Boris then so be it. We can't afford to not re-sign him, he's too important to our team's success. I'd hate to lose Patty but Diaw is more important. Hopefully we find a way to retain both.
    Yes, but if diaw is asking to put the organization into downgrade because of his money chasing, is he even a Spurs guy?

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    Splitter is not fancy but he gets the job done he has excellent hands is a smart player and is getting better. Would you rather have Splitter or a nut case like Cousins who makes how much? I think this was the break out season for him he will get more minutes next year and will help win games.

    I don't know why everyone is getting all worked up about Diaw and Patty both will be signed to Spurs friendly contracts.
    Give me a young stud and future all star in Cousins for 13M over a 28yr old Splitter earning 10M to defend shooting bigs and set picks.... If D'Antoni could coach MWP, no doubt Pop can set Cousins straight

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    Wow.

    Splitter was a restricted free agent last summer.

    He offered his services on the open market.

    Portland prepared an offer sheet for 4yrs/36 million dollars.

    That was his market value.

    Splitter gave the Spurs the chance to offer an equal contract before he signed the offer sheet.

    They did and he signed it.

    So you can argue that they should have let Portland pay him the 4/36 and moved on without him, but Splitter was getting a contract for 4/36 one way or the other. That was his market value.
    not really. There were teams who couldnt offer him money, right? because they were over the cap, or would be, right? then there isnt any way to know his real MARKET VALUE because other teams could have bid higher/paid higher, had there been no cap. then that number would be his MARKET VALUE...

    and see, you told the audience we couldnt argue market value, proven wrong again.

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    Spurstalk is ing unbielevable.

    Kawhi Leonard 5 years/$80M = "sweet man"

    Boris Diaw 2 years/$18M = " bag "

    Never... ing...change
    Really? You're the one calling out folks for critizicing a Spurs player contract extension?

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    Splitter is not fancy but he gets the job done he has excellent hands is a smart player and is getting better. Would you rather have Splitter or a nut case like Cousins who makes how much? I think this was the break out season for him he will get more minutes next year and will help win games.

    I don't know why everyone is getting all worked up about Diaw and Patty both will be signed to Spurs friendly contracts.
    no, if my options were splitter or cousins, I would take Splitter because of his demeanor. The whole point, from my angle, is that we overpaid for splitter and now are seeing some issues arise because of it, albeit indirectly. To me, it is hard to tell Diaw he's not worth splitter money because he's not, but splitter isnt either. The real issue is, Diaw is BETTER than Splitter, so how can you not pay him more? It was foolish to pay Splitter as much as we did, for 8ppg and 5 rpg.

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    not really. There were teams who couldnt offer him money, right? because they were over the cap, or would be, right? then there isnt any way to know his real MARKET VALUE because other teams could have bid higher/paid higher, had there been no cap. then that number would be his MARKET VALUE...

    and see, you told the audience we couldnt argue market value, proven wrong again.
    What are you talking about? His real market value was determined by a real contract offer received on the open market. For Tiago Splitter in the summer of 2013, the value of that contract was 4 years/36 million dollars.

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    I think something in the Channing Frye range would work. He's due $6.8m next season.

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    The Spurs don't have the means to get Ilyasova now that Bonner and De Colo are off the books. Maybe a big sign-and-trade if Diaw and/or Mills gets overpaid by someone else. They could use cap space if both Patty AND Diaw walk, but I don't know if that is worth losing the MLE in addition to a big.
    Unless they move Tiago of course... We have a saying over here that says "to reign is to foresee"... If they want to repeat (reign) they better better think long and hard about the way they wanna play next year...


    Splitter is not fancy but he gets the job done he has excellent hands is a smart player and is getting better. Would you rather have Splitter or a nut case like Cousins who makes how much? I think this was the break out season for him he will get more minutes next year and will help win games.

    I don't know why everyone is getting all worked up about Diaw and Patty both will be signed to Spurs friendly contracts.
    The Splitter is getting better myth is annoying, guy is 30 he's what he is, we're seeing a prime Splitter out there... And everyone would take Cousins no question asked.

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    What are you talking about? His real market value was determined by a real contract offer received on the open market. For Tiago Splitter in the summer of 2013, the value of that contract was 4 years/36 million dollars.
    Open market means unrestricted access... doesnt a salary cap restrict access?


    Again, we are arguing market value, something you said couldnt be done.

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    I think something in the Channing Frye range would work. He's due $6.8m next season.
    Seriously it's like comparing Bosh to Matt Bonner...

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    Open market means unrestricted access... doesnt a salary cap restrict access?


    Again, we are arguing market value, something you said couldnt be done.
    It's understood by all reasonable posters that all discussions of salary, contracts, and the like are within the confines on the CBA between the NBA and the players.

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    Seriously it's like comparing Bosh to Matt Bonner...
    Well, that's Frye last year of his contract, which normally means it's overpaid, due to the increases. I do think Diaw is the better player, but we're talking starting salary for Boris, and I think $6-7m range (with yearly increases) is probably something the Spurs could work with in order to keep Patty around too.

    The starting salary is the key here. The Spurs only have $8m committed for 15-16, so they can offer more in later years.

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    So many of you rooting for the FO to get a bargain. You do what you have to in order to bring this core back for another run. Simple as that.

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    Well, that's Frye last year of his contract, which normally means it's overpaid, due to the increases. I do think Diaw is the better player, but we're talking starting salary for Boris, and I think $6-7m range (with yearly increases) is probably something the Spurs could work with in order to keep Patty around too.

    The starting salary is the key here. The Spurs only have $8m committed for 15-16, so they can offer more in later years.
    If Boris was willing, they'd probably prefer a decreasing contract rather than an increasing one. They won't, in most scenarios, be using cap space this summer. Better to have less salary committed in a summer where they're more likely to need cap space.

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