Foundational Falshoods of Creationism

[Blake]

LOL, acting as if you didn't get your ass handed to you.

You're too re ed to know my e-semen is deep inside you.

I almost feel guilty.

[RD2191]

You're too re ed to know my e-semen is deep inside yours.

I almost feel guilty.

So now you're gay? Gross.

[spurraider21]

Because is referring to "day" in Gods viewpoint.

in god's viewpoint he also rested on the 7th day (in the same context as the other days of genesis), but we all know he didn't rest for 1000 years because he interacted with adam/eve and the consequent generations

[Blake]

So now you're gay? Gross.

You had your chance to say no means no.

[RD2191]

You had your chance to say no means no.

[xmas1997]

The video was meant to be amusing, but I can very easily find Christians saying bad things about atheists, if you like.

I don't claim there is no God. That is a strawman of my position. I merely claim that I have not been presented with evidence supporting that rather extraordinary claim.



Reasonable people can believe unreasonable things. I don't generally belittle people who believe things, unless they want to cast the first stone. I tend to give about as much respect as I am given, or at least try to anyway.

If anyone wants to cite the Bible, edited or re-written or whathaveyou, as "proof" of something,one has have to also explain the icky stuff, like human sacrifice, murder, rape, and the sheer absurdity of the resurrection and the whole underpinning of Judaism/Christianity, etc.



Lastly, I would simply ask why God has not revealed himself to me. If a road to damascus vision was good enough for Saul, it should be good enough for me. I want to see angels, and something a lot more convincing than some deeply flawed book. Surely the creator of the universe could do better than that. THinking that we need to learn ancient languages to really understand God makes about as much sense as requiring us to go to the basement bathroom of a building orbiting Alpha Centari to read the demolition notice for our planet. I can't imagine the creator of the universe is a Vogon.

Excellent rational reasonable points, all of which I agree with.
Having read them, I find it hard to believe we would ever have anything of contention between us.
Keep it coming.
Did you read what I had to say on the matter concerning fanatics?

[RD2191]

in god's viewpoint he also rested on the 7th day (in the same context as the other days of genesis), but we all know he didn't rest for 1000 years because he interacted with adam/eve and the consequent generations

Things get a little hairy here, I don't believe all of the Bible is entirely chronological.

[spurraider21]

Things get a little hairy here, I don't believe all of the Bible is entirely chronological.

[RD2191]

[spurraider21]

yeah, as i figured. it all boils down to picking and choosing, taking things literally or figuratively based on convenience of the matter or the argument at hand. its ridiculous and makes it impossible to have a legitimate conversation

[spurraider21]

its truly how i felt when i read that response

[RD2191]

yeah, as i figured. it all boils down to picking and choosing, taking things literally or figuratively based on convenience of the matter or the argument at hand. its ridiculous and makes it impossible to have a legitimate conversation

Not really, that is your opinion. There is no picking and choosing, if you really want answers you will find them in the Bible. And picking and choosing is the name of the game in "Evolution".

[spurraider21]

you cant sit here and tell me the bible is the word of god, has all the answers, is absolute, and then spit in its face by saying "well god didn't mean what he said when talking about the 7th day."

saying its not chronological when he literally says "on the fifth day, on the sixth day, on the seventh day"

[RD2191]

Really though, I respect your beliefs, but if you want answers you can find them. That's all there really is to it.

[RD2191]

The answers are there if you look for them, you don't want to though. You're reading with an agenda.

[RD2191]

And your question doesn't really make sense, all the Bible says is that God rested on the 7th day. It also doesn't say how long it took to interact with Adam and Eve.

[Clipper Nation]

at quoting Bible verses to back up your points.... you might as well quote Harry Potter or Alice in Wonderland, all three are equally fictional....

[Blake]

You're a pussy so no.

[RD2191]

You're a pussy so no.

You're the one fantasizing about other men. .

[~O~]

Humans have learned to date objects and rocks based on dead animals 14 dating and even forensics. Carbon 14 dating is something everyone should remember for public and private school days. When I was 19, its came to my understanding as an adult that the basic knowledge learned and loathed in school was for the greater good for college. Menial things such as Carbon dating and Science theories and elements didn't matter to me as a kid.

What did matter to me was Dexters Lab!!!!!! VICE CITY!! OMG...New XBOX!!! Halo!!...Club club party!! Have to get LAID!!!

I was so young. Forensics is something you could learn off watching investigation discovery. They've used it to date bodies after death. They even go as far as to date the bugs that fed off the corpse during to date its death.

This is completely based on time. Time is something that is considered uncontrollable. Archaeology has been performed for about 2500 years Thus, they have two thousand years to show that their process of dating works. Archaeology has even gotten more advanced with technology making their precision's more accurate and undeniable. Archaea ~ kingdoms and microorganisms.

Studying evolution is studying the trends of time. You will never see evolution happen. Evolution takes small steps through mutation. These small steps take millions of years. I could even say that the way our bodies have become immune to diseases over time is a small step in evolution. , I could say that we living healthier lives are making our strengthening our offspring..another small evolution.

As far as I'm concerned, evolution is undeniable. You see animals everyday and you look at them having very similar traits to able to live off of just like as you and I Eyes to breath, water they drink, food to eat, nutrients to grow. They have hearts, minds, bones, muscles and all the basics as we do to adapt and thrive within their environment. Some of our faces even resemble..these animals in an uncanny strange way. Thus..breathing life to evolution.

For people who question evolution, what other approach would you use to determine how we've become how humans came to be. As far as I'm concerned....we've been nowhere but here for millennium after millennium. The Earth has given us every hint that we all belong to one another. We need each other to survive. The Earth is a tomb of all life known and unknown. This Earth and the moon are the only things we can derive evidence from in which archaeologists can see and measure through methods of research.

[spurraider21]

And your question doesn't really make sense, all the Bible says is that God rested on the 7th day. It also doesn't say how long it took to interact with Adam and Eve.

which question doesn't make sense? he created man one day, and rested the next day. where was this 1,000 year nap? either he rested for 1,000 years or a day is a day. the context is clearly the same as the other 6 days

[RD2191]

And like I said before, I'm not claiming to know everything about the Bible. I'm sure you can find someone more knowledgeable than me about the Bible, but if you really want an answer give me time and I will give you one.

[Blake]

You're the one fantasizing about other men. .

no I see you as a huge gaping vagina.

[RD2191]

no I see you as a huge gaping vagina.

Is that what your ex wife reduced you to? Fantasizing about other men online. Poor bas .

[RD2191]

which question doesn't make sense? he created man one day, and rested the next day. where was this 1,000 year nap? either he rested for 1,000 years or a day is a day. the context is clearly the same as the other 6 days

I don't see what you're trying to get at. It says he created man on the 6th and then rested on the 7th. That's all it says. It doesn't say how long it took to talk to man.