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Don't bother explaining. Just tell me yes or no regarding your personal belief on the story of Abraham
You can make a case for literal being a lot closer to being factual than you can allegorical being close to fictional.
You can't be that confused to believe what you just said, can you?
Those were examples.
I can't believe I have to explain this to you.
Don't bother explaining. Just tell me yes or no regarding your personal belief on the story of Abraham
You tell me, Mr. Contrarian.
I am through playing your kiddie games.
It's obvious to me you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about, and definitely what I am saying is going way over your head.
Enjoy yourself.
Ugh. I just had semi diarrhea and have a slight headache.
Dodge # 2And your posts tell me and everyone else here that you are doing what you always do, trying to confuse, trying to distract, and trying to twist things all over the place to suit your own agendas whatever those may be, and as a last resort you make your patented false accusation in hopes someone out there will believe your, what did you call it, "horse ".
You haven't changed one iota, and furthermore are as predictable as the sun rising in the morning.
So it is no wonder few like or enjoy discussing anything with you, because that is not your aim.
A "discussion" is the furthest thing from your goal on here. But you are somewhat amusing to toy with.
How did I twist anything? I stated that I would like you to expand on a point that you made. That's all.
Are you going to back up your claim with anything or will you type another dozen sentences that have nothing to do with the conversation at hand?
Reread, if you can.Dodge # 2
Are you going to back up your claim with anything or will you type another dozen sentences that have nothing to do with the conversation at hand?
Dodge # 3
Are you going to provide the reasoning behind the claim that you made or are you going to keep complaining about non-existent strawmen and misinterpreting of your posts that never happened?
For such a rational, mature man, you seem more interested in complaining about other posters than discussing the matter at hand. If you are a reasonable non-troll, you wouldn't mind explaining why you think non-believers cannot possibly get the "deeper meaning" behind the Abraham story than a believer can.
youve been unable to answer a yes or no question all dayYou tell me, Mr. Contrarian.
I am through playing your kiddie games.
It's obvious to me you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about, and definitely what I am saying is going way over your head.
Enjoy yourself.
you tried to be clever and ask the same question back to me and I gave you a very straightforward "no"
you can write and babble for hours but can't give the simplest of answers: yes or no
I haven't read anything here other than when I was here early on.
I think the Bible is a gigantic hoax, yep, totally man made not unlike what Homer wrote. But.......no way this all just happened by chance, there is some Master Designer or Designers. Something is responsible for all this, and it wasn't.....BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As we can see from above nobody EVER EVER EVER changes their stance on this. So to bang heads over this topic is ridiculous, sure I 've done it and was doing a little today. But.......we all have our thing. I think it's totally naive to think something this 100% perfect just happened.
I'll bow out now, it really is a boring topic.
Lol I thought rob had posted that.
My bad
youve been unable to answer a yes or no question all day
you tried to be clever and ask the same question back to me and I gave you a very straightforward "no"
you can write and babble for hours but can't give the simplest of answers: yes or no
And you can ask the same stupid question over and over again without paying any attention to everything else that pertains to it iessentially before it can be answered.
But keep it up.
It's amusing.
Can't believe this, but I agree with you 100%
Damn, I think xmas putting you on ignore was a "boss" move -
I might have to try that!
Well , he's gotta be the boss somewhere after getting laid off from his job.Damn, I think xmas putting you on ignore was a "boss" move -
I might have to try that!
And I may have to put him back on ignore after he cried about it so much, because I thought he was going to be a a mature adult, but apparently he hasn't changed one iota and knows nothing about adulthood.Damn, I think xmas putting you on ignore was a "boss" move -
I might have to try that!
Link?
Uh huh, I thought as much.
It must be rough going through divorce, but blake is probably free.
Lol straddling the fence
You do know the difference between "I don't believe god exists" and "I believe no God exists", yes?Actually, and more accurately, I am working my way back from the "unsupported" premise:
"God Does NOT Exist", because I was once an atheist.
But you get points for being partially right.
It is subtle, but important difference often lost on many.
Lol 100% perfect
I think I already explained this, and even provided you with a video that even fleshes out the argument further, that you either didn't watch or are actively lying about.
You can make fun of this idea all you want, it is not what I believe, so I neither will bother defending it, nor will I care what kind of snarky remarks you want to make about it.
This is called a strawman logical fallacy.
You have, however, repeated stated that under some cir stances mass killing and child murder is, to you, moral, i.e. "if it is God's enemies" That I can on all day long, because it is apparently what you actually believe.
Lots of straw in this thread
Well, I do need to do a better job of explaining though. It is my responsibility to do so, and it is always a good mental exercise to think about what you believe and why.
Do you agree on that last bit? (just curious, you and I don't engage much)
Define "baby".
Besides the fact that one is a "belief" and the other is not, one could be attributed to an atheists' belief (your second example) and the other possibly to an agnostic (your first example).
Or do you have another reason?
The context for Rob's beliefs are, when asked is it evil to hack babies to death, and the response is:
Bolded words are my emphasis.
This answer is, paraphrased, "It is moral if God is fighting his enemies".
The assumptions that go into this:
God is moral, and dictates what is moral and what is not. i.e. "if God does it, it is automatically moral"
God is moral.
God cannot be immoral.
Therefore
If God does X, X is moral. (X is, by definition, moral, BECAUSE God does it)
X can be anything in this system.
X = Ordering his follower to hack babies to death.
Subs ute X into the above:
If God (orders his followers to hack babies to death), (ordering people to hack babies to death) is moral.
This is what Rob is saying, although he is neither honest enough, nor intelligent enough to summarize it this way.
I will represent this as Robs position.
If it is NOT his position, all he has to do is say "I do not believe that ordering people to hack babies to death is moral".
If it is his position, then he will try to deflect it and call me an idiot.
Simple really.
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