Police chokehold on man ruled a homicide

[DMC]

When they go to court and are unable to prove that the cop willfully murdered the suspect and/or was criminally negligent - then the M.E. will have to defend itself against a lawsuit for slandering the cop.

But - hey - semantics - at this point.

The death has been ruled a homicide by an authority having jurisdiction. That means the vic did not die of natural causes. The criminal element is irrelevant to that fact.

The guy is dead -


By the choking, his health, his weight, his refusal to stop resisting, etc....

One of those.

The M.E.'s office that conducts the autopsy has issued a ruling. Why are you acting as if the cause of death is still up in the air at this point?

[silverblk mystix]

The death has been ruled a homicide by an authority having jurisdiction. That means the vic did not die of natural causes. The criminal element is irrelevant to that fact.

The M.E.'s office that conducts the autopsy has issued a ruling. Why are you acting as if the cause of death is still up in the air at this point?

Because you and the rest of the public cannot differentiate between;

cause of death = choking

and

cause of death = choking due to criminal negligence/murder/homicide/


It has to be proven first but everyone already assumes the cop killed/murdered/ him.

[xmas1997]

Now he will make his ludicrous claim he took you to the woodshed, or that you aborted.
Where do these idiots who have no conceptions of discussions come from?

[DMC]

Because you and the rest of the public cannot differentiate between;

cause of death = choking

and

cause of death = choking due to criminal negligence/murder/homicide/


It has to be proven first but everyone already assumes the cop killed/murdered/ him.

I said nothing about cause of death. I said homicide is the killing of another person. That's directly from Wiki. The M.E.'s office ruled his death a homicide. You're equivocating homicide with negligent or criminal homicide. Even state sanctioned killings are homicides. My point was that the OP thread le was misleading. It doesn't address the criminal aspect of the ruling, since one wasn't made. People automatically think homicide is murder.

[DMC]

Now he will make his ludicrous claim he took you to the woodshed, or that you aborted.
Where do these idiots who have no conceptions of discussions come from?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post7528106

[silverblk mystix]

I said nothing about cause of death. I said homicide is the killing of another person. That's directly from Wiki. The M.E.'s office ruled his death a homicide. You're equivocating homicide with negligent or criminal homicide. Even state sanctioned killings are homicides. My point was that the OP thread le was misleading. It doesn't address the criminal aspect of the ruling, since one wasn't made. People automatically think homicide is murder.

Fair enough -


I honestly wasn't actually paying the proper attention - and I just re-read the OP's article -

---Choking - is a no-no in NYPD -


looks like cop will try to go the "I didn't willfully murder him" route -

but it appears he is ed.

My mistake for not taking the time to read it carefully.

[xmas1997]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post7528106

And ..........

[xmas1997]

Fair enough -


I honestly wasn't actually paying the proper attention - and I just re-read the OP's article -

---Choking - is a no-no in NYPD -


looks like cop will try to go the "I didn't willfully murder him" route -

but it appears he is ed.

My mistake for not taking the time to read it carefully.

Now he will make his idiotic claims that you "lost" some fic ious message board contest and made a laughing stock out of you.
These idiots abound on here.

[BlackSwordsMan]

way I see it is a cop killed a black people in the long run probably prevented another crime so what do we now punish cops for doing their jobs?

[bigzak25]

Cop has thanked me for not resisting. No point really.

[DMC]

Fair enough -


I honestly wasn't actually paying the proper attention - and I just re-read the OP's article -

---Choking - is a no-no in NYPD -


looks like cop will try to go the "I didn't willfully murder him" route -

but it appears he is ed.

My mistake for not taking the time to read it carefully.

Grown man move. Let's be friends, scrah.

[DJR210]

to be fair, i'm not the typical pothead " da police" guy... but when somebody pulls like this they deserve everything that's coming to 'em

Hope you never get ed over by a crooked cop..will change your views.

[spurraider21]

way I see it is a cop killed a black people in the long run probably prevented another crime so what do we now punish cops for doing their jobs?

that's not a cop's job

[spurraider21]

Hope you never get ed over by a crooked cop..will change your views.

oh, i'm certain there are bad cops, that's not the issue here. when people say " the police" i doubt they mean "i understand that a majority of cops are good, but i only mean ' those cops that are bad people'"

when a cop acts outside his bounds, i hope he gets ed by the long of the law (to quote superbad). personally i'm not stupid enough to get myself in those kinds of positions. even though i strongly disagree with the cops' action in this incident, if you have seen the footage, the guy was resisting during much of it. they were trying to cuff him and he kept tucking his arms by his side instead of allowing them to cuff his arms behind his back, etc

[DJR210]

oh, i'm certain there are bad cops, that's not the issue here. when people say " the police" i doubt they mean "i understand that a majority of cops are good, but i only mean ' those cops that are bad people'"

when a cop acts outside his bounds, i hope he gets ed by the long of the law (to quote superbad). personally i'm not stupid enough to get myself in those kinds of positions. even though i strongly disagree with the cops' action in this incident, if you have seen the footage, the guy was resisting during much of it. they were trying to cuff him and he kept tucking his arms by his side instead of allowing them to cuff his arms behind his back, etc

Most cops I've dealt with are just pricks, luckily only ran into a couple of legitimately "need to have their heads sawed off on streaming video" crooked ones

[spurraider21]

Most cops I've dealt with are just pricks, luckily only ran into a couple of legitimately "need to have their heads sawed off on streaming video" crooked ones

i dont care if they're pricks. i just care that they're not maniacal

[Oh, Gee!!]

Homicide means killing of a person by another person. Its not a legal ruling, but a medical/forensic one. Whether he was justified in causing death is for the grand jury to decide.

[Aztecfan03]

When they go to court and are unable to prove that the cop willfully murdered the suspect and/or was criminally negligent - then the M.E. will have to defend itself against a lawsuit for slandering the cop.

But - hey - semantics - at this point.


The guy is dead -


By the choking, his health, his weight, his refusal to stop resisting, etc....

One of those.

Labeling someone's death a homicide is not slandering anyone.

[Aztecfan03]

Now he will make his idiotic claims that you "lost" some fic ious message board contest and made a laughing stock out of you.
These idiots abound on here.

You are the one being idiotic on this thread.

[SnakeBoy]

Homicide means killing of a person by another person. Its not a legal ruling, but a medical/forensic one. Whether he was justified in causing death is for the grand jury to decide.

The only problem with the homicide label is that the medical examiners own finding contradict it....

Medical examiner spokeswoman Julie Bolcer said Garner died from "the compression of his chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police." Asthma and heart disease contributed to his death, she said.

Whether his death was brought on by an altercation with police or walking up a flight of stairs the true cause of his death should be labeled being a fat ass.

[Oh, Gee!!]

The only problem with the homicide label is that the medical examiners own finding contradict it....



Whether his death was brought on by an altercation with police or walking up a flight of stairs the true cause of his death should be labeled being a fat ass.

he died from asphyxia. his heart health and asthma issue contributed to his death, but the primary cause is choking. you're too stupid to live.

[Oh, Gee!!]

only healthy people can be homicide victims

[SnakeBoy]

he died from asphyxia. his heart health and asthma issue contributed to his death, but the primary cause is choking. you're too stupid to live.

Your too stupid to know that asphyxia does not mean choking.

[mrsmaalox]

Your too stupid to know that asphyxia does not mean choking.

Yes it does

[resistanze]

SnakeBoy