Who was the better player in the playoffs between Manu and Kawhi?

[Darius McCrary]

Manu went beyond the call of duty to redeem himself for his atrocious 2013 performance.
He was an assassin, he was clutch, he straight up balled.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Kawhi disappeared for like 4 games tops the entire playoffs. He is guarding durant, westbrook, lebron. Any offense KL gives us is bonus.
His job is to play defense. He pretty much does the same thing manu brings on offense and is the best perimeter defender in the league.

Now Manu disappeared the entire portland series and some other games. Kawhi is more consistent than Manu at this point.

More consistent at what?

Manu disappears with his scoring.. not his playmaking, and if we are going by that, I'm pretty sure Kawhi's career high is like 22 points.

I bet you feel re ed. Butthurt because a couple fans believed Manu played very well, so you make a thread, and so far it's backfiring.

[dabom]

More consistent at what?

Manu disappears with his scoring.. not his playmaking, and if we are going by that, I'm pretty sure Kawhi's career high is like 22 points.

I bet you feel re ed. Butthurt because a couple fans believed Manu played very well, so you make a thread, and so far it's backfiring.

but he has no defense to fall back on. When he isn't scoring, he needs to sit his ass on the bench.

That's the opposite with Kawhi. I don't know if you know, but kawhi is a two-way player.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

but he has no defense to fall back on. When he isn't scoring, he needs to sit his ass on the bench.

That's the opposite with Kawhi. I don't know if you know, but kawhi is a two-way player.

I think there's a reason you only have 300 posts. Manu is our best playmaker, right with Parker, so no, when he's not scoring he doesn't need to sit on the bench.

Manu is Manu. And can score 20 points straight out of nowhere.

Kawhi is hardly a two-way player. He's looked great in the finals, but he is inconsistent on offense and that's not really debatable. Not to mention this is talking about the playoffs, not skill.

The fact you are trying to compare the 36 and 23 year old and it's a legitimate discussion tells you all you need to know.

[dabom]

I think there's a reason you only have 300 posts. Manu is our best playmaker, right with Parker, so no, when he's not scoring he doesn't need to sit on the bench.

Manu is Manu. And can score 20 points straight out of nowhere.

Kawhi is hardly a two-way player. He's looked great in the finals, but he is inconsistent on offense and that's not really debatable. Not to mention this is talking about the playoffs, not skill.

The fact you are trying to compare the 36 and 23 year old and it's a legitimate discussion tells you all you need to know.

I really missed all those ing turnovers last year then. And his ty defense. If he's not scoring he can still hurt our team.
He'll even when he's scoring, he is a liability on defense besides his good 15 mins of good defense.

[Brazil]

Kawhi disappeared for like 4 games tops the entire playoffs.

make that 6 games...

black hole game 2 against Dallas
Games 2 -4 against okc
and 2 first games against Miami

He is guarding durant, westbrook, lebron. Any offense KL gives us is bonus.

no it's not. Spurs needed Kawhi being aggressive in Offense to have a chance and he did that well. Nothing close to his O production is a bonus.

His job is to play defense. He pretty much does the same thing manu brings on offense and is the best perimeter defender in the league.

not sure I understood your point here. Are you saying he brings in O as much as Manu or are you saying his D production is somehow equivalent of Manu O ? both statement would not make sense

oh and no he is not the best perimeter defender in the league

[Brazil]

As for OP it's a toss up

For me most consistent and valuable player of this PO is Duncan
Then Manu and Kawhi
Then Tony
Then Split / Boris / Green / Mills

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I really missed all those ing turnovers last year then. And his ty defense. If he's not scoring he can still hurt our team.
He'll even when he's scoring, he is a liability on defense besides his good 15 mins of good defense.

You need to quit melting down. You are bringing up irrelevance to try to further your point.

This thread is asking about who the better playoff player was in 2014. Manu had a bad playoffs in 2013, but did more than redeem himself in 2014. He had the same amount of steals as Kawhi, so where is this liability?

Do you even watch the team? Or are you one of those new-school fans like apostolic who only watches Kawhi? Because you're being very disrespectful.

"He'll even when he's scoring, he is a liability on defense besides his good 15 mins of good defense."

^ What does that even mean? It's like you contradicted yourself.

[dabom]

make that 6 games...

black hole game 2 against Dallas
Games 2 -4 against okc
and 2 first games against Miami





no it's not. Spurs needed Kawhi being aggressive in Offense to have a chance and he did that well. Nothing close to his O production is a bonus.




not sure I understood your point here. Are you saying he brings in O as much as Manu or are you saying his D production is somehow equivalent of Manu O ? both statement would not make sense

oh and no he is not the best perimeter defender in the league

Check their offensive numbers. They are comparable even though the system is relied on manu. And then when you look at their defense, Kawhi blows him out the water.
How hard is that for you to understand?

[dabom]

You need to quit melting down. You are bringing up irrelevance to try to further your point.

This thread is asking about who the better playoff player was in 2014. Manu had a bad playoffs in 2013, but did more than redeem himself in 2014. He had the same amount of steals as Kawhi, so where is this liability?

Do you even watch the team? Or are you one of those new-school fans like apostolic who only watches Kawhi? Because you're being very disrespectful.

"He'll even when he's scoring, he is a liability on defense besides his good 15 mins of good defense."

^ What does that even mean? It's like you contradicted yourself.

Can you read? It's self explanatory.
I was just proving that he can hurt this team besides not scoring.

[Clipper Nation]

You need to quit melting down. You are bringing up irrelevance to try to further your point.

This thread is asking about who the better playoff player was in 2014. Manu had a bad playoffs in 2013, but did more than redeem himself in 2014. He had the same amount of steals as Kawhi, so where is this liability?

Do you even watch the team? Or are you one of those new-school fans like apostolic who only watches Kawhi? Because you're being very disrespectful.

"He'll even when he's scoring, he is a liability on defense besides his good 15 mins of good defense."

^ What does that even mean? It's like you contradicted yourself.

Pet cats
got

[dabom]

Pet cats
got

Is he even with his girlfriend anymore?
I'd venture and say no.

[100%duncan]

make that 6 games...

black hole game 2 against Dallas
Games 2 -4 against okc
and 2 first games against Miami





no it's not. Spurs needed Kawhi being aggressive in Offense to have a chance and he did that well. Nothing close to his O production is a bonus.




not sure I understood your point here. Are you saying he brings in O as much as Manu or are you saying his D production is somehow equivalent of Manu O ? both statement would not make sense

oh and no he is not the best perimeter defender in the league

Brazil protecting Manu

Never thought Id see this day

[dabom]

Brazil protecting Manu

Never thought Id see this day

He knows Parker is next.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Is he even with his girlfriend anymore?
I'd venture and say no.

not realizing that agreeing with Korea Nation is basically equivalent to jerking off Michael Sam
butthurt because your poll failed
resorting to discredit Manu's accomplishments to prop up Kawhi
how about you put 2005 Manu vs. 2014 Kawhi since you want to talk about Manu every chance you get

[100%duncan]

not realizing that agreeing with Korea Nation is basically equivalent to jerking off Michael Sam
butthurt because your poll failed
resorting to discredit Manu's accomplishments to prop up Kawhi
how about you put 2005 Manu vs. 2014 Kawhi since you want to talk about Manu every chance you get

You need to give up on this discussion. All of a sudden when you say that Kawhi is not the best player in the team they'll curse you.

But I'd still laugh at cat jokes though

[dabom]

not realizing that agreeing with Korea Nation is basically equivalent to jerking off Michael Sam
butthurt because your poll failed
resorting to discredit Manu's accomplishments to prop up Kawhi
how about you put 2005 Manu vs. 2014 Kawhi since you want to talk about Manu every chance you get

Kawhi got a FMVP in 2014 and Manu didn't in 2005

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Kawhi got a FMVP in 2014 and Manu didn't in 2005

Okay? Manu won an Olympic medal when he was 23, against team US, and Kawhi still can't create his own shot.

[100%duncan]

Okay? Manu won an Olympic medal when he was 23, against team US, and Kawhi still can't create his own shot.

Yes he can. Don't overdo it like they do.

[dabom]

Okay? Manu won an Olympic medal when he was 23, against team US, and Kawhi still can't create his own shot.

I hope Kawhi doesn't play in meaningless national team games. I want him healthy every year.

[Clipper Nation]

not realizing that agreeing with Korea Nation is basically equivalent to jerking off Michael Sam
butthurt because your poll failed
resorting to discredit Manu's accomplishments to prop up Kawhi
how about you put 2005 Manu vs. 2014 Kawhi since you want to talk about Manu every chance you get

lol Manu > Kawhi
lol > Montana
lol cats

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I hope Kawhi doesn't play in meaningless national team games. I want him healthy every year.

He has yet to play more than 65 games in a year, too..

Easy to nitpick, isn't it?

[dabom]

He has yet to play more than 65 games in a year, too..

Easy to nitpick, isn't it?

but he isn't injured for the playoffs.

[Perry Mason]

I second that Manu has a very slight edge. D. Green gets some credit for the wing defense, and Manu was more important on offense, offsetting Tony's inconsistency.

But people need to stop underrating TP's performance. He was injured and played like a warrior. He was icing his ankle in the delivery room.

He still led in average scoring, still ran the offense and floor game (earning Pop's praise) and had great individual performances in every series. People are just used to his consistency so it was jarring to see him off some games.

[Brazil]

Check their offensive numbers. They are comparable even though the system is relied on manu. And then when you look at their defense, Kawhi blows him out the water.
How hard is that for you to understand?

you suck at this tbh

Manu scored 14 ppg same total than Kawhi with an equivalent TS% plus he was the primary ball handler off the bench. He gave 4 assists per game vs. 1,7 for Kawhi, 6 per 36 same as Parker. His scoring per 36 is the best of the team at 20 ppg. So no their offensive numbers are absolutely not comparable.