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    Team now led by three point guards. DoK must be rolling over in his grave
    4 if you count Ennis

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    70 mill for a pg who cant shoot

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    70 mill for a pg who cant shoot
    They'll have to match that for Dragic next June.

    tee, hee.

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    Considering how fast the cap is rising (could be at $66.5 million after next season, $8.5 million increase in just two seasons) $14 million per is a pretty good deal for the Suns.

    Still don't think they'll make the playoffs. as is next season though.

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    Considering how fast the cap is rising (could be at $66.5 million after next season, $8.5 million increase in just two seasons) $14 million per is a pretty good deal for the Suns.

    Still don't think they'll make the playoffs. as is next season though.
    Eh, they'll probably get in over Memphis if they can stay reasonably healthy.

    I agree, though, that the cap rising is going to change the way people see a lot of deals. As I said in another thread, the MLE in 2017 should be in the $30M/4 range. So Eric's deal will be closer to a $55M/5 in terms of impact on the cap.

    The problem is obviously that if Bledsoe can't stay healthy or doesn't continue to improve, then he'll be a bad contract no matter how you want to look at it. That's why the Suns would be smart to trade him off to a team like Minny come the 15th of January.

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    It's possible that a five-year contract is better than a four-year one. Coach Nick brought up the point that meniscus injuries tend to shorten careers rather than derail them. So Bledsoe doesn't project to be a very good player in his 30s. But during this contract, he shouldn't see many negative effects. So by giving out a longer deal, the Suns captured more of Bledsoe's prime while also giving themselves a chance to eject before the injuries catch up to him. The team that signs him in 2019 won't be as lucky.

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    It's possible that a five-year contract is better than a four-year one. Coach Nick brought up the point that meniscus injuries tend to shorten careers rather than derail them. So Bledsoe doesn't project to be a very good player in his 30s. But during this contract, he shouldn't see many negative effects. So by giving out a longer deal, the Suns captured more of Bledsoe's prime while also giving themselves a chance to eject before the injuries catch up to him. The team that signs him in 2019 won't be as lucky.
    They swore up & they swore down here that they'd never give him that 5th year.

    They gave him that 5th year.

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    They swore up & they swore down here that they'd never give him that 5th year.

    They gave him that 5th year.
    You can probably safely make five more tallies in your "O & __" book.

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    I predicted on another thread that the Suns would be possible to sign a 70 mil/5 yr contract extension with Bledsoul.
    Taiwanese fans have better BBALL sense than Yankee's ?

    tee, hee.

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    I dont care what cap is jumping to, I wouldnt have given him that contract when no one else was willing to. The suns med staff is best in the business, so that helps ... but his agent got his client want he wanted with little leverage. Props.

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    Suns bid against themselves and when they inevitably pay Dragic next summer they'll have 35+ mil committed to 3 short guards. No matter how much the cap rises, this isn't good cap management. They'd be smart to trade him for a wing or a big in february if he's having a decent season.

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    Suns bid against themselves and when they inevitably pay Dragic next summer they'll have 35+ mil committed to 3 short guards. No matter how much the cap rises, this isn't good cap management. They'd be smart to trade him for a wing or a big in february if he's having a decent season.
    they very probably will trade Thomas, Goodwin, or Ennis later.

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    current Parker contract 4 years at $M 50 is a steal

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    current Parker contract 4 years at $M 50 is a steal
    No . That is why I wouldnt have caved on this. Dude makes like 6-7 million less than Lebron. SMh ...

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    current Parker contract 4 years at $M 50 is a steal
    It's a steal in first two years but it's a waste in last two years.

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    Bledsoe is a $12M a year player, max, and that is factoring in his potential.

    He's a two guard in a PG's body, somebody who's a scorer, and is not particularly good in involving his teammates. He's like a poor man's Westbrook in some regards. Great athlete, defends pretty well.

    Problem is that Dragic and him both requires the ball in their hands to maximize their effectiveness. I see the Suns trading him in the near future, but it would be tough with that contract.

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    No . That is why I wouldnt have caved on this. Dude makes like 6-7 million less than Lebron. SMh ...
    even parker extension 3 years $M 43 look reasonable in comparaison

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    current Parker contract 4 years at $M 50 is a steal
    As in, Enrique is stealing money from the Spurs organization....

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    Bledsoe is a $12M a year player, max, and that is factoring in his potential.

    He's a two guard in a PG's body, somebody who's a scorer, and is not particularly good in involving his teammates. He's like a poor man's Westbrook in some regards. Great athlete, defends pretty well.

    Problem is that Dragic and him both requires the ball in their hands to maximize their effectiveness. I see the Suns trading him in the near future, but it would be tough with that contract.
    this. The NBA salary structure is dumb. IF i was Lebron I would take a very different stance come next negotiations.

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    Spurs come out on top again. I would take Parker over Bledsoe at more money but at less that's a steal. And I forget they signed thomas wtf is PHX doing?

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    I'm not in love with the contract, but I'd rather have him back than lose him for nothing. If he doesn't suffer any serious injury, I think the deal will be a good value. Hopefully the top-notch Suns medical staff can keep tabs on him and help maximize his chance of staying on the court for all 5 years. No need to burn him out with heavy minutes since we have Dragic and Thomas there.

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    this. The NBA salary structure is dumb. IF i was Lebron I would take a very different stance come next negotiations.

    LeBron likely doesn't care that much about his NBA salary, so long as it's in the upper say 10% of the highest paid players or somewhere in that neighborhood.

    There are NBA stars who get paid a lot of money to play basketball. Then there are NBA stars who are also media icons like LeBron, Durant. At least as far as last year, according to Forbes, LeBron made about $19 million from his NBA salary. He made about $53 million in endorsements. So his endorsement money made up over 2.5 times as much as his NBA salary was. Guys like Lebron and Durant and in the past guys like Iverson or Shaq and obviously the king of them all Michael Jordan made a financial killing off the court. I'm not suggesting LeBron or other highly popular athletes play for pennies, but a LeBron making a $20 million NBA salary when he probably deserves over $30 million isn't as big of a deal because of his endorsement dollars. For most of his prime years, Tiger Woods' endorsement money annually dwarfed his tour money. Instead of looking at it as LeBron making $20 million versus Bledsoe making $14 million, look it as LeBron really making over $70 million and Bledsoe making $14 million.

    Now for some NBA superstars like Dirk (perhaps because he doesn't care or perhaps because marketers didn't want to use the German star) or Tim Duncan (perhaps because he doesn't care either or his perceived dry personality), they don't make the huge money in endorsements. Maybe it would be more appropriate to use them as examples of an unfair NBA salary structure. For LeBron, he'd be fine if his NBA salary was $5 million a year, let alone $20 million. As long as LeBron is still dominating on the basketball court, is on a winning team, and doesn't get into any major/serious trouble off the court (e.g. Kobe post rape case), he doesn't have to worry much about whether he's being paid enough by the Cavs.

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    I'm not in love with the contract, but I'd rather have him back than lose him for nothing. If he doesn't suffer any serious injury, I think the deal will be a good value. Hopefully the top-notch Suns medical staff can keep tabs on him and help maximize his chance of staying on the court for all 5 years. No need to burn him out with heavy minutes since we have Dragic and Thomas there.
    He's bone-on-bone, Mori, right-this-second.

    And you gave him the 5th year after you swore you wouldn't.

    48 to 70, just-like-that.

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    LeBron likely doesn't care that much about his NBA salary, so long as it's in the upper say 10% of the highest paid players or somewhere in that neighborhood.

    There are NBA stars who get paid a lot of money to play basketball. Then there are NBA stars who are also media icons like LeBron, Durant. At least as far as last year, according to Forbes, LeBron made about $19 million from his NBA salary. He made about $53 million in endorsements. So his endorsement money made up over 2.5 times as much as his NBA salary was. Guys like Lebron and Durant and in the past guys like Iverson or Shaq and obviously the king of them all Michael Jordan made a financial killing off the court. I'm not suggesting LeBron or other highly popular athletes play for pennies, but a LeBron making a $20 million NBA salary when he probably deserves over $30 million isn't as big of a deal because of his endorsement dollars. For most of his prime years, Tiger Woods' endorsement money annually dwarfed his tour money. Instead of looking at it as LeBron making $20 million versus Bledsoe making $14 million, look it as LeBron really making over $70 million and Bledsoe making $14 million.

    Now for some NBA superstars like Dirk (perhaps because he doesn't care or perhaps because marketers didn't want to use the German star) or Tim Duncan (perhaps because he doesn't care either or his perceived dry personality), they don't make the huge money in endorsements. Maybe it would be more appropriate to use them as examples of an unfair NBA salary structure. For LeBron, he'd be fine if his NBA salary was $5 million a year, let alone $20 million. As long as LeBron is still dominating on the basketball court, is on a winning team, and doesn't get into any major/serious trouble off the court (e.g. Kobe post rape case), he doesn't have to worry much about whether he's being paid enough by the Cavs.
    I get your point. MJ is a great example. But still didnt stop him for making $25-$30 million (IIRC)near the end of his career. no one was making more than Mike off the court, but it is still a sign of disrespect that the best player in the sport and arguably the best player of ANY team sport is not getting a contract befitting that. And that a good not great player like Bledsoe makes 5 million less for on the court production...is crazy.

    And I dont buy that he is not upset about it He has mentioned it several times. Remember he says he wants to be the first billionaire athlete. YOu dont get there by being raped by the CBA .... Click here

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    They swore up & they swore down they wouldn't bid against themselves.

    They bid against themselves.

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