What does this play say about Kawhi and Tony's relationship as teammates?

[wildchild]

Everything else is Kawhi-homer talk

Well, if you think the Spurs have other true two-way wing and all around wing player or think they have a better option to develop and build the future, maybe you're talking about another team.

[Chinook]

Well, if you think the Spurs have other true two-way wing and all around wing player or think they have a better option to develop and build the future, maybe you're talking about another team.

What the does most of that even mean? What's a "true two-way wing"? Do you just mean a wing who can score and defend? Spurs have three of those. What do you mean by "all around wing player"? Same thing as before? Again, the Spurs have three of those. As far as option to build around, that's not saying much. The Spurs' best chance of staying compe ive is to try for a free agent. If that doesn't happen, the team is done. Building around Leonard is like Philly building around Iggy a few years ago. They couldn't consistently make the playoffs, and they eventually had to blow it up anyway.

[wildchild]

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We all see you...and don't buy the bluefont.






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[wildchild]

The Spurs' best chance of staying compe ive is to try for a free agent. If that doesn't happen, the team is done.

So the team is done. Just tank for the next Duncan.

I mean, I don't believe that but in your opinion the FA is our best chance...or just tank.

[Chinook]

So the team is done. Just tank for the next Duncan.

I mean, I don't believe that but in your opinion the FA is our best chance...or just tank.

Yep. Spurs have a championship core. But they'll need a new star PF or two high-caliber players to replace some of what Tim and Manu bring.

[HI-FI]

False.

Be more specific.

[wildchild]

What the does most of that even mean? What's a "true two-way wing"? Do you just mean a wing who can score and defend? Spurs have three of those. What do you mean by "all around wing player"? Same thing as before? Again, the Spurs have three of those.

Really? On Spurs roster? They don't have three wings who can score and defend at elite level like Leonard, and don't have three all around wings...(a two-way wing/all around wing not the same).

[Venti Quattro]

This is the same op who said that advanced stats would've made the Heat win the Finals last June.

[Chinook]

Really? On Spurs roster? They don't have three wings who can score and defend at elite level like Leonard, and don't have three all around wings...(a two-way wing/all around wing not the same).

Differentiate them, then.

Anyway, being two-way doesn't mean you have to be the best at both. Green is the team's best defender in most categories, but he's also a very efficient offensive option who can pretty much take over a series when he gets hot. Leonard is the best defender in the other categories, and he's efficient enough on offense to make the defense accountable, and he's great at exploiting mismatches. Manu is a capable defender who can still scrap with the best of them despite being old, and he's easily the best offensive wing on the team. Those are three two-way wings. Non two-way wings are players like Harden or Tony Allen, who excel at one side of the ball while being liabilities on the other side.

[wildchild]

Differentiate them, then.

Anyway, being two-way doesn't mean you have to be the best at both.

But it means they have to be great on both ends.
I still love to see Manu play but he isn't defensive great now like Kawhi, and Danny isn't offensive great like him. Danny isn't a really two-way player, he's an amazing 3-D guy...so the team don't have three of them, just have Leonard.

You know exactly what's an all around player I don't need explain.

[Chinook]

But it means they have to be great on both ends.

No, it doesn't. Green is an elite shooter, and probably the most efficient per-shot scorer on the team. Ginobili will still make key defensive plays to win games or bang with players much better than him. Manu is significantly better on offense than Kawhi. Compared to him, Leonard is not "great" offensively. Really, you're trying to split hairs to elevate Leonard on some pedestal. The Spurs have only a couple of one-way players, and perhaps only one or two more who allow one side to slip outside of big moments. That's the reason why they're so good.

You know exactly what's an all around player I don't need explain.

Dodged the out of that, eh?

[wildchild]

No, it doesn't. Green is an elite shooter, and probably the most efficient per-shot scorer on the team. Ginobili will still make key defensive plays to win games or bang with players much better than him. Manu is significantly better on offense than Kawhi. Compared to him, Leonard is not "great" offensively.

Green isn't a versatile scorer, he's a three point elite shooter, so he's a 3D guy. And Manu still can make some defensive play but you don't put him on the opposing team's best player all game, they aren't two-way player like Leonard.

Dodged the out of that, eh?

Not really. I just don't want to spend my time explaining things which don't need to be explained.

[Chinook]

Just a poor attempt to narrowly frame things to make Leonard seem unique. And your unwillingness to define does your point no favors.

[ChumpDumper]

Be more specific.

He made the same sign as all the others.

[Man In Black]

The OP needs to get off their knees.
Seriously...I've been watching Kawhi since he was down the street at SDSU and I love the player that he's become....he will be the future, but I ain't building a shrine the way the OP does. Its bordeline OCD.

[HI-FI]

He made the same sign as all the others.

eh not so sure, check around the 1:27 mark. maybe you have a Special Edition version where they CGI in the hand sign though.

[ChumpDumper]

eh not so sure, check around the 1:27 mark. maybe you have a Special Edition version where they CGI in the hand sign though.

Thought we were talking about the actual award presentation.

lol spurfan is so sensitive.

[ChumpDumper]

Holy ! One of the white guys in the back didn't do the sign either!

Somebody track that guy down!

[HI-FI]

Thought we were talking about the actual award presentation.

lol spurfan is so sensitive.

that's why I mentioned the Alamodome Celebration. lol shill made a mistake.

[ChumpDumper]

that's why I mentioned the Alamodome Celebration. lol shill made a mistake.

What do you mean by shill?

lol you're so sensitive

Seriously, who was the other guy who didn't do the sign?

WHO WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON???

[Spurs21Fan4Ever]

Lol some people are crazy! Come on now, if this problem really exists then Duncan would put an end to it immediately. Everyone know this always has been Duncan's team and will be until he retires.

[ohmwrecker]

I think it says, "TP is more likely to pass to Kawhi if he's open."

[exstatic]

you are better than that tbh

No he's not.

[mathbzh]

We've seen time and time again in the NBA even when a player is scoring, it doesn't always help a team.

It's not like the Spurs have won anything with Parker.

[romain.star]

you are better than that tbh

Better than what?