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another thread ruined by the usual bags.
Ah well, not like this topic was very new or interesting anyway.
didn't deny he is a bakla
forgot how to read and is frantically trying to deflect attention from it
another thread ruined by the usual bags.
Ah well, not like this topic was very new or interesting anyway.
Damn that must be US specific Liberals, ain't nobody dumber than a British Liberal.
If Lib s have better IQs why did they vote for Obola in the presidential election? Obola has caused more damage to humanity than any virus has ever done tbh.
The xellos/Uriel exchange is an example of how off-topic the debate gets really quickly.
@ I believe you are missing my point completely.
You are dismissing important evidence because you haven't researched enough yet. They found that Sodom and Gomorrah were indeed destroyed by intense heat and fire. What could possibly generate enough heat to leave glass in the sand?
1. Nuclear Blast
2. Asteroid impact
Well, nuclear blast could possibly be written off (unless you subscribe to the ancient astronaut theory). That leaves the asteroid impact. However, there is no crater. Perhaps it was an airburst impact such as the one that occurred over Siberia.
The Bible recorded that the cities were destroyed by fire and brimstone falling from the sky. Could an airburst asteroid debris falling on those cities be interpreted as such? Indeed it could. How would a person in that time presume to interpret such an event based on their current scientific knowledge?
The Bible was written thousands of years ago and who knows how long the stories within it were passed down orally over many generations? You are completely ignoring the timeline altogether when it comes to the Bible. People did not live the same way we do now. Customs change, civilizations change, and societies change. That is how things were done and were not looked down upon. It was normal, logical and rational thinking for the time.
It is the way of thinking of both Atheists and Theists that I am debating. Not the existence or non-existence of a deity. Neither side can claim that they are right and base all their arguments on acts of faith. Yes, atheists do indeed use faith. They place their faith in the knowledge that scientific principle brings us. The way I see it, science is the "god" of atheism. You believe that science can and will provide you all the answers you seek. How are you any different from those that believe in God and put their faith that God will provide the answer and vice versa.
Last edited by xellos88330; 10-17-2014 at 11:28 AM.
You said you don't believe in the Bible
You're just flat re ed
No...
Atheists aren't basing their stance on faith; they're basing it on convention. They don't have faith god doesn't exist and that science will provide all the answers. They simply dismiss the prudence of believing in god and push for the continuation of a scientific pursuit of knowledge. Science is a convention by which we test beliefs and form consensus, and it works really well. But it doesn't give truths to the universe any more than a calculator gives truths about math. You're right that some people like Uriel put too much faith in the current scientific view, but that's not the true nature of the atheist constructive.
Science allows humans to find out answers for themselves. As far as we know, simply praying to god doesn't do the same thing. Science isn't a theistic/atheistic thing. Don't concede it to them.
I'm surprised you didn't jump on Avante talking about gambling.
Do you chodes ever get tired of arguing about the exact same every ing day online? Get off the computer tbh
The OP reminds me of some gy liberal poster just having took an intro to philosophy course..
Last edited by rogues; 10-17-2014 at 02:29 PM.
he's welching on his own bet with himself
And you remind me of the dumb, fat kid who sat at the back of the class, and couldn't understand the lesson, so he resorted to bullying the kids who were smarter than him because he needed an outlet to unleash his feelings of frsutration, emanating from a lack of self-worth.
The OP reminds me of some gy liberal poster just having took an intro to philosophy course..
The Bible also says that the Earth is the center of the solar system, that the universe was created in 7 days, that the Earth is 6,000 years old, that all the living creatures on Earth were created as is (with no new life form spontaneously coming into being through evolution by natural selection), and that the value of pi is 3.00. If you seriously believe that the Bible is a repository of comprehensive scientific and historical knowledge, then I'm very sorry tell you that you've been thoroughly misled.
Besides, let me ask you this: even if we were to assume that God does exist, why are you so confident that it is the God of the Bible? Why don't you think it's Allah, or Yahweh, or Brahman, or Buddha? Does it maybe have to do with the fact that you happen to have been born into a Christian family in a Christian-dominated country? If so, isn't it the epitome of arrogance to declare your religion the one true religion (and by extension, all other religions mistaken), simply due to the accident of birth?
the bible never actually said pi = 3.00
that's a misconception. but yeah i wouldn't use it as a science/history book
"Then he made the sea of cast metal. It was round, ten cubits from brim to brim, and five cubits high, and a line of thirty cubits measured its cir ference." 1 Kings (7:23)the bible never actually said pi = 3.00
that's a misconception. but yeah i wouldn't use it as a science/history book
C = 2(pi)r
C = 30; r= 5
30 = (2)(pi)(5)
3 = pi
Last edited by Uriel; 10-18-2014 at 06:01 AM.
Truth nuke, tbh.
Urinel is proof positive that lib s don't actually have higher IQ's
Wait... what? Religion is the opiate of the masses, but atheism makes people feel better about themselves than adopting the notion that they are the sole reason the entire universe was created, and that they will live on forever in Honalee with Puff? I suppose me not believing ghosts exist makes me feel better about myself as well.
To xellos,
Don't capitalize "atheist" or "theist". You seem to not have a problem with "astronaut" so why do you think "atheist" or "theist" is somehow a proper noun? Do you capitalize "runner" or "bassist"?
Sounds pedantic eh? The capitalization of the word "atheist" is the precursor to then insisting atheism is a religion, which it's not.
Atheism is the default position for any claim made of any god. If I tell you there's this god you need to meet, you're instantly atheistic toward that god. That's a natural reaction, it's why we are still alive on this planet, the ability to discriminate based on probability of a claim being factual. So to paint atheism as anything other than the innate sense of skepticism regarding god claims is at best wrong and at worst completely dishonest. All the verbal gymnastics in the world won't shunt that fact.
So although I don't subscribe to the entire IQ debate (people with IQ's over 140 are often boring and self absorbed, or so I'm told), the tendency of the ignorant (not meaning stupid) is to take what they consider the safer route, herd mentality, and growing up in a religious environment means you claim to be a god believer yourself, and though you might have questions internally about it, you don't pursue them since they might cause you harm. What if is real after all? Gambler's fallacy is probably the most utilized tool in the Southern US where religion is concerned.
Urinel is proof positive that lib s don't actually have higher IQ's"We strive for a egalitarian society!"
I'm aware of this and this is the misconception I referred to. Nowhere does it claim to be a perfect circle. Not to mention, cubit was an informal unit of measurement at the time, so it was often an approximate distance rather than a standardized one
Don't get what's hard to understand about that.
Probably does.I suppose me not believing ghosts exist makes me feel better about myself as well.
Last edited by Chinook; 10-18-2014 at 02:48 PM.
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