Cavs: Is Lebron Past His Prime, tbh?

[100%duncan]

Could be. But still undoubtedly the best player right now.

[spurraider21]

- Too early to say, small sample size

- He's playing in a much different system, it took years to build perfection in Miami

- It's concerning that he lost weight and wants to play on the perimeter more, since he no longer has the explosiveness to rely entirely on the outside game..he transitioned into an inside-outside game with the Heat, which negated any loss of athleticism/explosiveness..if he's going to attempt to base his entire game from the attack from outside, it's not going to work, he doesn't have the speed/athleticism anymore..

- People don't realize how much he carried the Heat for 4 years..He played both the Jordan and Pippen role for them, it's possible that it has taken a toll on his body..

i wouldn't say years... i would say "a year."

they were at their best in 2011-2012. they looked vulnerable in the 2013 postseason against Indiana and San Antonio

[DPG21920]

Having Lebron play the glorified Boris Diaw role is not the best way to use him. He needs to dominate the ball a bit more use guys like Kyrie as spot up shooters with the ability to take over ball-handling, creating when Lebron gets rest.

[Calispursfan11]

i like hayward, he's a good player, but the jazz aren't going anywhere with him as their franchise guy.

Yeah, they need another weapon or two before they can even dream of the playoffs.

[313]

- People don't realize how much he carried the Heat for 4 years..He played both the Jordan and Pippen role for them, it's possible that it has taken a toll on his body..

And he didn't in Cleveland before he went to Miami? He worked less in Miami except maybe the last year where Wade didn't play as much.

[RD2191]

I have never been impressed by LBJ. It has also infuriated when people talk about him being a top 10 player of all time. LeBrons entire game has revolved around him being a freak athlete and a monster with very good speed at his size. Over the years his most impressive plays have been dunks and his patented bulldozing to the rim. Once he loses his athleticism his game will go down fast. I have said this for years. Just wait and see.

[DPG21920]

I have never been impressed by LBJ. It has also infuriated when people talk about him being a top 10 player of all time. LeBrons entire game has revolved around him being a freak athlete and a monster with very good speed at his size. Over the years his most impressive plays have been dunks and his patented bulldozing to the rim. Once he loses his athleticism his game will go down fast. I have said this for years. Just wait and see.

Que?

[Malik Hairston]

i wouldn't say years... i would say "a year."

they were at their best in 2011-2012. they looked vulnerable in the 2013 postseason against Indiana and San Antonio

The 2012 team was still able to dominate defensively, though..they were still overwhelming, athletically..

The 2013 and 2014 Heat got by strictly on chemistry/continuity/Lebron..

[spurraider21]

I have never been impressed by LBJ.

[DMC]

And he didn't in Cleveland before he went to Miami? He worked less in Miami except maybe the last year where Wade didn't play as much.

He didn't make 4 Finals runs consecutively in Cleveland.

[benstanfield]

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/stor...rodriguez-ryan

In all honesty, a lot of his weaknesses and/or aging were masked on MIA by having two great defenders and a really good defensive scheme in MIA. Where he could coast for three quarters and win regular season games in the fourth, he is now finding himself down 15+ in the first half because he is the only decent defender Cleveland has

[spurraider21]

The 2012 team was still able to dominate defensively, though..they were still overwhelming, athletically..

The 2013 and 2014 Heat got by strictly on chemistry/continuity/Lebron..

they had the big win streak during the 12-13 season too after the Andersen pickup. he was actually a great fit/spark for them that year.

still, the hapless bulls actually dragged em to 6, the pacers took them to 7, and it took 6 to win the finals. not a dominant run like we saw in '12

[DMC]

I have never been impressed by LBJ. It has also infuriated when people talk about him being a top 10 player of all time. LeBrons entire game has revolved around him being a freak athlete and a monster with very good speed at his size. Over the years his most impressive plays have been dunks and his patented bulldozing to the rim. Once he loses his athleticism his game will go down fast. I have said this for years. Just wait and see.

You should stay in the club posting pho.to pics of a the wrong guy. It suits you. Leave basketball alone.

[Malik Hairston]

And he didn't in Cleveland before he went to Miami? He worked less in Miami except maybe the last year where Wade didn't play as much.

1. Lebron in Cleveland was mostly a defensive non-factor
2. That was a long-ass time ago, the Miami years just added even more tread

[100%duncan]

I have never been impressed by LBJ. It has also infuriated when people talk about him being a top 10 player of all time. LeBrons entire game has revolved around him being a freak athlete and a monster with very good speed at his size. Over the years his most impressive plays have been dunks and his patented bulldozing to the rim. Once he loses his athleticism his game will go down fast. I have said this for years. Just wait and see.

Lebron is already top10 imho. One of the best athletes ever.

[313]

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/stor...rodriguez-ryan

In all honesty, a lot of his weaknesses and/or aging were masked on MIA by having two great defenders and a really good defensive scheme in MIA. Where he could coast for three quarters and win regular season games in the fourth, he is now finding himself down 15+ in the first half because he is the only decent defender Cleveland has

b-b-but Miami sucked and lebron makes his teammates better

he was alone in Miami

[spurraider21]

1. Lebron in Cleveland was mostly a defensive non-factor
2. That was a long-ass time ago, the Miami years just added even more tread

were't those cavs consistently ranked among the highest defenses? i think lebron had a bit to do with that

[RD2191]

Lebron is already top10 imho. One of the best athletes ever.

I don't see it. Especially since he had to join 2 other stars to ring.

[RD2191]

You should stay in the club posting pho.to pics of a the wrong guy. It suits you. Leave basketball alone.

You should lose weight, tubby.

[100%duncan]

I don't see it. Especially since he had to join 2 other stars to ring.

And he carried those 2 to 2 rings. Jordan had Pippen. TD had manu and tp and Pop. You sound like a casual fan/bron hater with that kind of logic.

[313]

I have never been impressed by LBJ. It has also infuriated when people talk about him being a top 10 player of all time. LeBrons entire game has revolved around him being a freak athlete and a monster with very good speed at his size. Over the years his most impressive plays have been dunks and his patented bulldozing to the rim. Once he loses his athleticism his game will go down fast. I have said this for years. Just wait and see.

You could say the same about Shaq and he was one of the most dominant big men of all time. Just a freak of nature. I sort of agree, nothing about Lebron's game impresses me much. Even his dunks are boring. He has good vision but he never throws rondo/rubio-esque passes. The only time I'm excited watching Lebron is when his jumpshot is falling which is every once in a while.

[Malik Hairston]

were't those cavs consistently ranked among the highest defenses? i think lebron had a bit to do with that

2009 was probably the only season with the Cavs where he consistently guarded the opposing team's best player and anchored a defense, tbh..

Still, those Cavs teams couldn't play D in the playoffs once they matched up against decent opposition, and it wasn't anything like the job he did in Miami from 2011 to 2013..those Heat teams were elite on defense all year without a traditional rim protector..

[DMC]

If Lebron even remotely hinted he wasn't going to resign in Cleveland, and hinted at any other team in the league, that team's fans would suddenly start sucking him off on every forum on the webs. Why? Because he's a difference maker.

[DMC]

You should lose weight, tubby.

Even if I was fat, I could lose weight, but you'd still be an idiot.

[HI-FI]

No Hgh connection in Cleveland right now.

this. no Biogenesis nearby with the papa john routes.