This is true, my profession had many extremely hazardous potentials, but nothing like the military or the fire and police depts.
I also think that one thing that is hard to distinguish or at least seperate is that while there are a lot of people that enlist that aren't the most educated and are doing so to escape limited opportunities, that doesn't mean they can't change. So while someone may have entered into something with no real honorable intentions, many do learn, change and grow as people too.
If they did I'd expect them to get the fantastic benefits and life experience that soldiers get... But I wouldn't be more thankful to them than I would be any person who does their duty which they chose to undertake.DO garbage collectors risk their lives for you?
I bet you are the same guy that likes to argue percentages. You will try and argue that 10% of 1000 is the same as 10% of 1,000,0000 dollars because they're both 10%.
Thank you for your service, you should have a special day and people should stand and applaud for you on airplanes.
nuh that doesn't make any sense at all. But 10% is 10%
Garbage collection is a more dangerous job than both a police officer and a firefighter.
So if your little girl had her life saved by a doctor who had to undergo years of intense schooling then operate under cir stances where every decision they made was the difference in your little baby dying vs living, you would feel no more grateful than the guy who hands you 2 dipping sauces for your chicken nuggets at Wendy's?
It makes perfect sense because you are equating "paid" to "the same". All paid jobs are not equal in terms of sacrifice nor importance. For you to reduce your argument to "trash man" vs "military" because they both get benefits/paid is the same thing as arguing 10% is 10% when in reality 10% vs 10% can be very different things.nuh that doesn't make any sense at all. But 10% is 10%
A job is a job.
I'm not even sticking up for the military tbh..I just hate bad logic.
Largely? The federal government has been co-opted by special interests from the onset. Congress is made of congressmen and women, many of whom has sat on boards of large corporations that have interests abroad. They are all trying to move all the marbles to their side of the sand box, and it's a time honored tradition of brotherhood among thieves/wealthy to choose bros before hoes (common folk being the hoes). I wouldn't expect anything less. From the common man though, who doesn't have aspirations of amassing great wealth and power, some honor creeps in.
Congress/corporations... all the same.
"Our troops" is about service members. A troop is one service member (odd terminology I agree). Certainly no one is showing appreciation for the Pentagon.I just don't really care how anybody feels about their job or the decisions they made, it's really out of my control. That goes for the army guy, the Wall Street stockbroker or the art major... which doesn't mean I don't have my own opinion about some of those decisions, but really, everybody largely makes their own bed, then lie on it, and then we deal with it or not. The "dragged on the street" argument is really relative (extraordinary rendition comes to mind). I would just say that, largely, we've understood that dissent and criticism are integral parts of a healthy society. The question is what to do with those societies that didn't get the memo. Bombing the living out of their cities and killing their families in the name of their own freedom sometimes sends the wrong signal, IMO.
Now, notice that none of the above really involve service members decision-making, that's why I don't pin any of that on them.
Bull . If you felt that way you'd not think Cesar Chavez did anything special.
How many garbage collectors died in the line of duty last year?
^Jealous that no one applauds dead beat dads.
Not my numbers, come from Bureau of Labor Statistics
http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2013/11...bs-in-america/
http://www.businessinsider.com/most-...ca-2013-8?op=1
This topic should really be moved to another area.
18 fatalities vs 146 fatalities.
Having stupid people doesn't make the job dangerous. It makes the people dangerous.
Also, traffic accidents that kill a person who's driving a work vehicle doesn't really count as a work related hazard. We all face the same driving risks. 59% of cops who died did so due to violence. With garbage collectors, it was heavily slanted to traffic accidents (60%).
So sure, you can twist the numbers to say whatever you like.
First off I hate fast food, don't touch the stuff 'cept for some Chick-fil-a action :hungry
Secondly, if I were to hypothetically purchase some Wendy's nuggets I guess I would be thankful for the two extra sauces but I don't really need them and if he refused to provide be with said sauces I have some ketchup at home. The surgeon I would be eternally grateful towards because of his years of practice and I will have witnessed his work saving my daughters life.
One thing I could do without, one I couldn't live without, of course I'm more thankful towards the surgeon.
I see what you are saying. Soldiers are handing out freedom sauce for our nuggets, but I'm telling you I have freedom ketchup of my own in the fridge at home. Life saving surgery is something only a skilled doctor can perform. Any idiot can fire a gun or fry French fries.
How many people would have died if they hadn't picked up the trash?
lol shove off, pussy
Lmao I am anything but a dead beat dad, let's stick to reality
Refer to your family history.
You are shifting your argument. Your argument was never about skill or scarcity - it was about a job being a job because someone is paid.
The fact you just stated you would treat a surgeon different than someone at Chick-fil-a illustrates my point (and others) as to the "why" certain people may be appreciated/recognized more than others despite being paid. So now your argument is shifiting from the basic reduction of "paid" to scarcity/skill/inherent danger or importance to the community.
Much different argument but we can continue down the path.
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