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    I'm not glossing over his poor shooting. "Stinkers" is not meant to sound "good". 2/7 was one of the BETTER shooting displays that day, sadly, and 3/13 (Green and Leonard combined 1/10 in that game, his 2/7 game previou ...lazy edit) was bad, and still on par with our finals MVP and rumored max player, as well as DG, one of our 3-point specialists. Shooting woes are pervasive. Everyone is suffering from 3 except Parker. Because I don't overweigh it doesn't mean I ignore it. I have mentioned it several times.

    I just don't rush to judgement on the 15th guy on the bench. His summer league wasn't great, but his shooting in preseason was acceptable.

    He has played mostly poorly, but not any more or less so than most of the team, especially, again, based on expectations. We are talking about a roster spot sometimes filled with Bateers and Marks and DeColos. I am not afraid.

    At the end of the season, he still looks very capable of ending with a 40+% from 3 year, but maybe not. I will wait until the end of the year. I won't wring my hands over this first 3 games, one of which he played 3 minutes.

    Lastly, I don't cherry-pick anything. Acknowledging the good with the bad is being objective. Nothing else. The people that drive by saying: I hope Daye gets Ebola. Or, something of the sort, are the ones looking at the glass half-empty.

    I have mentioned his fouling rate being to high about 10 times. And, lamented his poor shooting throughout the summer league. His shot selection needs to improve, some, too. He passes up some he should take, and takes some he should pass.

    He's getting playing time, though, and NoNo is right. When the time comes, if he is released, I won't be crying that he didn't get a chance. He needs to knock down his shots, even if Belli, Diaw, Green, Manu and Leonard aren't.
    Definitely a major disappointment that he missed so many shots. Daye and Anderson should have been prepared this game knowing that it's a back-to-back. The poor shooting of their team mates should have not affected their own shots.

    The only silver lining is that Daye and Anderson combined for 5 steals. In fact, I was hoping to see Pop stay with the lineup of Anderson, Daye, Diaw, Leonard and Ayres for much longer, just to see how it works on defense. I would like to see both Daye and Anderson on the court at the same time, their collective length seems to compensate for their defensive liabilities.

    In comparing Daye with Bonner, Daye certainly is more disruptive in defense, he does record blocks and steals. Bonner's shot looks more consistent (not necessarily more accurate). With Daye, you can tell the shot is going to miss based on his form. The plus side of Daye's shot is that he can take it with less breathing room than Bonner.

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    He needs to be cut. I have no reason why the Spurs guaranteed his contract.

    If you are 26 and still haven't figured out how to be an NBA player you probably never will.

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    I would much rather see the last roster spot open for prospect auditions. Keeping Daye is a waste of time and resources.

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    Please off, Daye.

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    Was Ed Davis unavailable or over our price range? The Lakers got him for a steal. The Daye experiment really isn't working out.

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    Was Ed Davis unavailable or over our price range? The Lakers got him for a steal. The Daye experiment really isn't working out.
    Pop would never pursue Ed Davis, tbh, his basketball IQ makes Dejuan Blair look like Tim Duncan..


    As for Daye, everybody should have already known that he's terrible at the time of the Nando trade..it's too late in his career to establish himself, this is a player that had never shown flashes of competence before..

    The only surprise is Pop giving him minutes, tbh..

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    Pop would never pursue Ed Davis, tbh, his basketball IQ makes Dejuan Blair look like Tim Duncan..


    As for Daye, everybody should have already known that he's terrible at the time of the Nando trade..it's too late in his career to establish himself, this is a player that had never shown flashes of competence before..

    The only surprise is Pop giving him minutes, tbh..
    Pop has given him more playing time than he ever gave Mahinmi, so it is likely that the he sees some potential in him.

    However, the guy is just not making his shots in the last two games. His defense is better though, but his lack of urgency and tentativeness in offense is a disappointment.

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    Real-talk: he's got the potential to be a Kevin Garnett type of player. Except he's more athletic than KG was at his age, which allows him to be so versatile. We haven't had a SF this well-rounded since Sean Elliott. I think Daye is the prototype for what future NBA players will look like. Life after Duncan doesn't look so bad now with Joseph, Baynes and Daye developing the way they are. I'm excited for the future.





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    LOLOL DPG and HH with teh bads, per tha usual
    hey buddy..

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    There are people here who thinks Daye is a wonder lol

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    Yeah, it's hard to figure out who's being serious.

    Real-talk: he's got the potential to be a Kevin Garnett type of player. Except he's more athletic than KG was at his age, which allows him to be so versatile. We haven't had a SF this well-rounded since Sean Elliott. I think Daye is the prototype for what future NBA players will look like. Life after Duncan doesn't look so bad now with Joseph, Baynes and Daye developing the way they are. I'm excited for the future.
    WTF? The ONLY player on our roster who is less athletic than Daye is Kyle Anderson. The ONLY things Daye has going for him are his length and shooting. His shot appears MIA since that Philly game last year, so he's like some tall guy running the floor.

    Jamaal Franklin or Malcolm Thomas would each be a vast improvement.

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    WTF? The ONLY player on our roster who is less athletic than Daye is Kyle Anderson. The ONLY things Daye has going for him are his length and shooting. His shot appears MIA since that Philly game last year, so he's like some tall guy running the floor.

    Jamaal Franklin or Malcolm Thomas would each be a vast improvement.
    The coaching staff had enough time to evaluate Jamaal Franklin, Malcolm Thomas, Jamychal Green, Josh Davis, ... yet they still are sticking with Daye.

    If I were the Spurs though, I would let Ayers go in replacement for another big.

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    The coaching staff had enough time to evaluate Jamaal Franklin, Malcolm Thomas, Jamychal Green, Josh Davis, ... yet they still are sticking with Daye.

    If I were the Spurs though, I would let Ayers go in replacement for another big.
    Actually, they had to make a decision on Daye before either Franklin or Thomas became available.

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    The coaching staff had enough time to evaluate Jamaal Franklin, Malcolm Thomas, Jamychal Green, Josh Davis, ... yet they still are sticking with Daye.

    If I were the Spurs though, I would let Ayers go in replacement for another big.
    They should have used the MLE to pursue a backup big, wing, or guard. Guys like Daye and Ayres aren't NBA calibre. Pop's the best coach in the league but even he can't work wonders with a piece of .

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    Burn The Ucking Temple Down!

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    Pop would never pursue Ed Davis, tbh, his basketball IQ makes Dejuan Blair look like Tim Duncan..


    As for Daye, everybody should have already known that he's terrible at the time of the Nando trade..it's too late in his career to establish himself, this is a player that had never shown flashes of competence before..

    The only surprise is Pop giving him minutes, tbh..
    I mean I definitely knew he was terrible and so has anyone who ever had him on their team. I'm just surprised he's still around, still getting minutes, really.

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    Look at his stats - 20% fg% and 16% 3p%!! I do not remember any spurs player with awful numbers like that.

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    As much as I like Daye and his potential, he's had more than enough time to prove his worth. Unfortunately, he hasn't made the most of his time. When ST begins clamoring for more Bonner than Daye, you know you suck.

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    Does anyone remember Didier Ilunga-Mbenga, Tim Breaux, or Tremaine Fowlkes?

    They all played for NBA champions.

    And that's the exact same situation with Austin Daye. On a scale of zero to 100, what happens with him regarding his success with the Spurs rates about a .01. He makes a small salary, has great length for his position, and is a mildly interesting project. If his shooting improves (as Parker's and Leonard's have, thanks to the great coaching staff), he'd be a decent third string guy. I'm sure RC and Pop don't think he's going to turn into Kevin Durant, or Mike Dunleavy, or DeMarre Carroll.

    Anyway, let's see if we can get this thread past 30 pages!

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    James White or Austin Daye?

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    James White or Austin Daye?
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    Who was the guy everybody went crazy over before James White? Or was it the guy after?

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    I don't get the whole, "he's at the end of the bench, why complain? No one complained about player X on Y team!" DEFENSE.

    the spurs aren't the normal team. They don't have dominant superstars. They don't play the starters 35+ minutes a game. They actually use or are in position to use deep bench players. There is probably no other team in the playoffs who will willingly play their bench so much.

    More than any other team, the spurs deep bench matters. It's worth talking about the deep bench and who can play and who can't because they'll probably have to play during the season, and the playoffs.

    Daye has had 5+ years, 4 teams, 5 coaches and nearly 4000 minutes to prove that he isn't any good. Spurs didn't spend their mle, guaranteed Daye, and aren't giving Anderson the minutes he would need to find out if he could help in the playoffs. Chalk it up all you want to the season being early, but every game is an opportunity, there are only so many this season. I'm not even an Anderson devotee, but Daye has proven his own of worth, and I'd rather see Anderson than Daye, who will be on unguaranteed minimums the rest of his career.

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    Who was the guy everybody went crazy over before James White? Or was it the guy after?

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    I don't get the whole, "he's at the end of the bench, why complain? No one complained about player X on Y team!" DEFENSE.

    the spurs aren't the normal team. They don't have dominant superstars. They don't play the starters 35+ minutes a game. They actually use or are in position to use deep bench players. There is probably no other team in the playoffs who will willingly play their bench so much.

    More than any other team, the spurs deep bench matters. It's worth talking about the deep bench and who can play and who can't because they'll probably have to play during the season, and the playoffs.

    Daye has had 5+ years, 4 teams, 5 coaches and nearly 4000 minutes to prove that he isn't any good. Spurs didn't spend their mle, guaranteed Daye, and aren't giving Anderson the minutes he would need to find out if he could help in the playoffs. Chalk it up all you want to the season being early, but every game is an opportunity, there are only so many this season. I'm not even an Anderson devotee, but Daye has proven his own of worth, and I'd rather see Anderson than Daye, who will be on unguaranteed minimums the rest of his career.
    The Spurs were linked to a few players this off season-- one was Josh McRoberts, who I thought would have been a great pick up. He chose to play elsewhere. My problem with this thread is the at ude that RC and Pop are sitting around, doing nothing, and that if one of the members of Spurstalk were given the reins, then the Spurs would magically have Anthony Davis & LeBron James. It just feels like some people here are in constant complaint mode.

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    Daye was a low risk experiment that probably won't work out. Not that big a deal. Especially for a team with the recent success rate of the Spurs.

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