Lakers: Is Kobe this dumb, or is he purposely doing this to send a message to the FO?

[Splits]

I got 16 and a heart full of memories that will see me to the grave.

I said "honest" Laker fans. Not hackjobs

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I said "honest" Laker fans. Not hackjobs

Must have some redeeming quality...you spent money on me.

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The issue about this season (and to an extent the last few seasons) isn't that Kobe sucks because he's finished like bullets Jordan raptors Olajuwon or Seattle Ewing, it's that he's still putting up huge scoring numbers while his team sucks, and his behavior validates a lot of the flaws and criticism over the years, even during his prime.

Him being inefficient and a cancer of a teammate isn't something new, it's just that people lived with it because the team was winning. The team is no longer winning and Kobe is one of the main reasons for it.

You've no room. You tanked to get that Duncan.

[Arcadian]

He's just not capable of carrying a team to success, and he never was. You're finally realizing it. That's all.

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He's just not capable of carrying a team to success, and he never was. You're finally realizing it. That's all.

25-5-5.

[unforeseen]

25-5-5.

Bend over, I'll give you a 25-5-5 = 15 incher.

[Kidd K]

Well he's good enough to be top 5. I'm not sure how anyone can take any of those Bill Russells, O-Robs, Hakeems, Aids and Kareems seriously.

This gets my vote for most ignorant take of the season so far.

[mkurts]

He is well past his use by date .... but you know the laker people love his , its the volume that counts not the quality you see

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He is well past his use by date .... but you know the laker people love his , its the volume that counts not the quality you see

25-5-5.

[Fabbs]

Prawwwwk prawk. Please attach my bag.

[RsxPiimp]

He sent a message when he hustled Jimbo out of the $48.5m... that move symbolized more than just money. I don't get Lakerfan that are "surprised" now that the product is this bad, tbh...

Honestly, Im not surprise the product is bad, that wasn't a concern considering the amount of injuries. But coming into this season, Kobe talks about a good game about playing team ball, unity etc, yada yada and I actually bought it. My thinking was, hey the guy is simply going to have fun this season. I was wrong. I just knew that ESPN ranking bothered him so he's out there proving he can still score.

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My thinking was, hey the guy is simply going to have fun this season. I was wrong.

No, you were not wrong. (This) is fun to Kobe. Try & stop him and you'll see. tee, hee.

[midnightpulp]

No, you were not wrong. (This) is fun to Kobe. Try & stop him and you'll see. tee, hee.

Swaggy P might via taking shots away from Kobe.

And he's back tomorrow, Cub!

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Swaggy P might via taking shots away from Kobe.

And he's back tomorrow, Cub!

They'll still be enough to sustain 25-5-5.

[jimbo]

Laker Nation?

This is Kobe Nation

[Killakobe81]

It will make the lakers better. They still won't make the playoffs, but they will develop the younger talent, create a compe ive culture, and can possibly attract some big name FA once Kobe is gone. M

What the lakers are doing now is an assault to professional basketball.

Outside of Clarkson there is no young talent. I agree it would be good to see if Davis Hill and Lin will be useful after this year but truth is there is NO talent to develop ... this team is THAT bad.

[hyhy]

He is trying to make his "kobe bryant fadeaway highlights" longer than "michael jordan fadeaway highlights".

After everything is said and done, 20years down, nobody watches full games. Everyone watches highlights and they will not see the bricks kobe made

[StrengthAndHonor]

Outside of Clarkson there is no young talent. I agree it would be good to see if Davis Hill and Lin will be useful after this year but truth is there is NO talent to develop ... this team is THAT bad.

I hear.people hyping Davis, does he have any future with the Lakers?

[Killakobe81]

I hear.people hyping Davis, does he have any future with the Lakers?

He is no cornerstone piece. But like he showed with Grrizz last year if he is your 4th or 5th big he definitely has attributes that can be useful to a better team ...to bad we suck. I think if you add him to Clips and use him as 3rd or 4th big with Hawes supporting Jordan and Blake he has great value. When he is your best two way big (like on Lakers) you are screwed. Great shot blocker good defensive instincts. too skinny (though he has gotten stronger) to hold a true big on the low block. Not much of a jump shooter but solid passer great on dives to to the rim in pnr and Ok defending pnr. Good athlete. Team guy.

[ambchang]

Outside of Clarkson there is no young talent. I agree it would be good to see if Davis Hill and Lin will be useful after this year but truth is there is NO talent to develop ... this team is THAT bad.

Davis, Hill and Lin are all serviceable players. You make it sound like they are historically horrible, and they are not. Some of the late 90s Mavs and Nuggets, the 80s and 90s Clippers, and the current 76ers are probably worse in talent.

[Killakobe81]

Davis, Hill and Lin are all serviceable players. You make it sound like they are historically horrible, and they are not. Some of the late 90s Mavs and Nuggets, the 80s and 90s Clippers, and the current 76ers are probably worse in talent.

I disagree on sixers. If you take Kobe out of the equation I would rather have MCW, Wroten and Noel over anyone of the Lakers next best players outside of Randle. And considered both guys are hurt I would probably take embiid over Julius ...

I will take your word that those teams you mentioned were worse. But this is the worst Lakers roster I have ever seen and I have been watching for almostmy whole life. Post Magic Lakers and Post shaq Lakers had more talent than this one Julius's injury sucked the life out of the little talent we do have.

You just want to prop up this buffet platter to on Kobe. no need his FG% chuck rate etc is plenty of fuel, Amb. Already conceded duncan is greater even before this storm, what more do you want?

this team sucks. I know you want to milk the cancer story I dont care this team ing sucks. And the only thing that matters (not Kobe's legacy or Fredo jokes) is getting a top pick. And this roster is well suited for that Kobe chucking or no ...

[RsxPiimp]

Davis, Hill and Lin are all serviceable players. You make it sound like they are historically horrible, and they are not. Some of the late 90s Mavs and Nuggets, the 80s and 90s Clippers, and the current 76ers are probably worse in talent.

Yeah, I agree. Not sure if it's just a bad fit or what, but I feel those three can contribute more. Could be the system rather than Kobe tho.

[RsxPiimp]

I hear.people hyping Davis, does he have any future with the Lakers?

Good chance he'll get offered bigger money somewhere else just like any other no name FA who used the Lakers to get exposure and then cash out in FA (Meeks, Ariza (no name then) Earl Clark, Ramon Sessions)

[Clipper Nation]

The " buffet platter" has been -13.7 with Kirby on the court compared to +4.2 without him. Seems to me that the "cancer story" is the truth.

[Killakobe81]

Yeah, I agree. Not sure if it's just a bad fit or what, but I feel those three can contribute more. Could be the system rather than Kobe tho.

I think it's both the system and Kobe. I already said those guys are serviceable the those three plus Clarkson (and maybe Swaggy) worth seeing do more ... but they are not stars and none should be a starter on a legit contender.

Kobe and Scott should use them more for selfish reasons, finding out if they have use when we are better.

But again this team sucks, trying to win more games this year is a fool's errand.