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I know Pop is CIA when it comes to trades but I really don't think he is cruel like that.
Spurs probably submitted the deal five minutes late on purpose. Just to shake up the team, get 'em worried ("appropriate fear" as Pop would say), get 'em to stop taking things for granted, get 'em ready for the playoff push.
I know Pop is CIA when it comes to trades but I really don't think he is cruel like that.
I wish we would have traded barry for ron artest. Seems we are only able to pull off trades for scrubs. Barry isn't working out to good here dispite being an allstar champ and a nba champ.
but never fear for Ian will soon be here. and he will dominate OLD school style
Oh my freakin' god. That would have been one of the most slick moves ever. Get rid of a bad contract for a future star.
This story doesn't make sense. Surely the Spurs didn't lose out because they got the paperwork f'ed up. If they did, heads will roll like the one time prior I'm drawing a blank on (I think it was a scout who screwed up on the eligibility of a intl prospect for the draft).
someone has said that the spurs purposly filled late and got leage to disapprove. So the trade wouldn't go through but would send a message to the team about performance.
This has to be the most depressing thing I've read all month.
ing Jonas. This is so typical. Now we're just gonna keep being old and injured.
I couldn't imagine that that was the reason. Likely it took the Hornets too long to agree (or a 3rd team to, as it was reported to have been a "multi-team" deal by Ludden) so that there wasn't time to meet the deadline.
I cant believe the trade deadlines are that strict...five minutes late and no deal? What a load of ...
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Or Seattle drafting Zukauskas in 1995 thinking it was Ilgauskas ?
If the spurs wanted this bad enough they wouldn't have waited to the last minutes to do it.
The spurs are not agressive at trading in general. So many big named players have switched teams the last 5 years through trades and (some were dumped for almost nothing in return) the spurs have not gotten anyone much better than a role player here or there.
They do not make improvements thru trades.
Right, it's not like they traded an end of bench overpaid 'big man' for the guy who was their starting center for their playoff run to a ring or anything...They do not make improvements thru trades.
Maybe we can revive the trade in summer? =(
This is such a farse....those GM's are strumpets I tell ya!! STRRUMpets!!!
peter bryant's c woulda e'd if JR smith threw down a viscious dunk for his first basket as a Spur
timvp too
I guess we'll all have to keep dreaming
In summer it will be tougher to trade for this guy.
I like Barry a lot. And many of us know his locker room value. But having JR would be something for the future.
Parker-Manu-JR as MI21 said what a backcourt. In flashy meaning.
Under Pop's system and TD's presents this JRman would have been mean. Maaaaaan
Hopefully he and Scott continue to jaw at each other through the media and Scott disparages him so thoroughly that most of the sheep GMs around the league believe that he's not worth it this summer.
locker room value is a euphemism for 'this guy sucks ass on the court but doesn't solicit drugs in the locker room either'
pfffffffffffff we know you would not give enough money in summer for him
Smith not traded, but not popular with Coach Scott
Friday, February 24, 2006
By John Reid
Staff writer
http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index...6515439890.xml
OKLAHOMA CITY -- Despite the Hornets' push toward the playoffs, a rift has developed between Coach Byron Scott and second-year shooting guard J.R. Smith.
Both acknowledged before Thursday's trade deadline they haven't been on speaking terms since early January after Scott demoted Smith in favor of Kirk Snyder in the starting lineup.
Scott said Smith has not gotten better from last season, which forced him to lose his starting job.
"I stop talking to people that don't listen," Scott said. "I'm not going to waste my breath. I've sat down with J.R. on numerous occasions and told him what he needed to do, so have Coach (Darrell) Walker and Coach (Kenny) Gattison and Coach (Jim) Cleamons. And like I said before, if you chose to do it, then we'll work.
"If he chose not to, there is nothing I can do about that. I tell all our players what they need to do to improve. I have an open-door policy. There hasn't been one time that J.R. has come into my office and talked to me. Like I said, he's lying."
Scott said they have spoken only one time since January when Scott replaced him in the starting lineup after Smith called to ask if he was getting traded nearly two weeks ago.
"I said, 'No, we're not trying to trade you, but here's what you have to do, though,' " Scott said. "I don't understand what more you want. (He) comes in with five minutes left in practice (Monday in Indianapolis) and goes and sits down, and when we finish scrimmaging, (he) goes to shoot free throws, and he doesn't come to us and say 'Coach, I'm sorry that I overslept.' It's not acceptable."
Smith said Scott has taken it personally against him, from no longer playing him on a regular basis to having little communication.
Smith said he wasn't surprised when Scott did not play him in Wednesday night's loss to the Utah Jazz at the Ford Center, despite that backup guard Speedy Claxton was sidelined with a sprained left ankle; top scorer David West missed his second consecutive game to be with his wife and newborn daughter; Jackson Vroman, who started in place of West, broke his right wrist when he tried to break his fall after a dunk in the third quarter; and earlier in the quarter, Desmond Mason bruised his tailbone and did not return.
"I wasn't surprised at all, because his ego is too big in order to put something petty aside and try to win the game," Smith said. "At this point, something has to be done; I'm not going to prosper from this situation. When you can't communicate with the head guy, something is wrong. I come in early, stay in late, and if that don't work, I don't know what will. So there is nothing for me to do. I've approached him (Scott) numerous times, tried to call, set up meetings -- no communication. Every team I've been on, I've always been friends with the head coach."
It was speculated that Smith would be traded before Thursday's 2 p.m. deadline. He anticipated that it was going to happen after practice. But no deal occurred.
Scott and Hornets general manager Jeff Bower declined to say if Smith was part of the deal that couldn't be completed in time before the deadline, which the league did not allow.
But Bower said Smith's future remains with the Hornets. However, he gives his full support to Scott on how he handles players and the expectations he sets for them.
"The coach has it in his job to set expectations and performance levels that he's looking for, and it's the player's job to meet them," Bower said. "Playing time in a compe ive situation and distribution of minutes is a very important thing. Earning those minutes and creating a role is something that has to be developed and not given. If one player is playing and the other player isn't, and if there is a change in that somebody else's minutes has to go. It's a compe ive thing."
Scott said he doesn't think Smith's unhappiness will divide the team, because he believes the Hornets' veterans will handle the situation.
After the trade deadline passed, Scott said, "He (Smith) will be here. Like I said before, it isn't never going to be personal with me. But I would like for the man to start telling the truth, that he'd be honest not only with you guys (media) but also his self. That's to me is the bottom line."
NOTE: Vroman will miss the remainder of the season with a broken right wrist that occurred in Wednesday's loss to the Utah Jazz, Scott said. Vroman was injured after he went up for a two-handed dunk and fell to the floor and put both arms behind his back to break the fall. Vroman averaged 1.8 points and 2.1 rebounds.
"It wasn't a good break," Scott said. "He's got to get a plate in there and everything."
Scott hated Jack too. The Spurs might just yet get another young SG prospect thanks to Scott's arrogance.
Jackson Vroman out of Iowa State, also known as "young vlade" for his unkempt appearance in college, owned UT in his senior year bc of missed Bod er free throws.
pfffffffffffff we know you would not give enough money in summer for him
eh?
What about a buyout?
They could. If all parties to the would-be trade really wanted it to happen, this summer the Spurs could get their man.
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