The more I watch Baynes....

[superbigtime]

Baynes is alright. A little clumsy but has some nice touch with the ball at times. Im glad he's ahead of Ayres, but really he's just a serviceable big and a good teammate.

[Nero5]

the problem with the quotation of statistics on this forum is the lack of context: is the shot contested or uncontested? Is it against first or second rotation opposition? Is it prime time or garbage time? Baynes is good for the spurs as he fulfills a role at an acceptable price. The whole Spurs team and ethos is finding the right shape plug for the right hole in the team as appropriate for the moment - it's clearly a strategy to prolong the careers of the big 3 and it suits the budget of the organisation and the coaching style of Pop. Sure Baynes will not be the right player for some contests and exactly the right player at other times - but cut out the quotation of stats as thought they are really meaningful.

[spurraider21]

Sooner than later, teams are going to break down video on him this season, and the opposing big will just follow Manu to the hoop, daring Baynes to shoot.

they do a good job of keeping space between them even when Baynes rolls... manu drives at a wide angle, giving space for pocket passes. Baynes is capable of finishing with either hand on either side of the rim. Not quite like Tiago, and doesn't have hands like Tiago, but he's serviceable. i think his biggest issue is keeping the foul count low. his defensive awareness and positioning needs work, and i think extensive playing time will help.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Watching the cleveland game. He's fumbled at least 3 passes in the first half.

I saw the fumble on the Manu bullet and that was about it. He had one TO. The feeds on the pnr off the doubling of the ballhandler the Cavs were running all night to contain Parker and Manu were not very good but he didn't lose any of them. He got layups off several of them early but after Leonard and Manu bricked up threes they started packing the paint and looking for that pass off the weakside.

Manu and Parker watch film and hopefully Baynes will too so they work on their timing, spacing, and execution. We saw something similar with Splitter and those two when he first started getting regular minutes. That is not to say that Baynes will get to where Splitter is with them now but rather that it is a progression. This is the 11th game of Baynes getting regular rotation minutes.

He is quick and decisive and doesn't sit on the ball. He is doing a much better job off the ball and no longer wanders around mindlessly setting screens and ing up spacing.

He was battling Varejao, Thompson and Love while Green, Diaw, and Manu were able to board very well off of it.

The only foul I didn't like was him letting Varegao get inside of him on a pnr but Parker is in defensive cruise control and clear 'trail' position. Two of the fouls I thought were good contests with him in position jumping straight up. He was not running underneath or into people. These rotations too stand to get better.

Nonetheless, he was okay against a talented Cavaliers frontline. I thought we might see another Sacramento performance but he is getting better. Pop for now seems content to run with him and more rotation minutes will see better execution over time. It is just the nature of things.

[z0sa]

Terrible take

[BackHome]

I think Baynes just needs playing time and for Pop to let him go through some growing pains. You can tell when he is on the court that he is thinking way to much and just not letting the game come to him.

[Biernutz]

Baynes plays mostly in the first half so no to get to many minutes on Boris and Tim. You don't see him
much in the 2nd half unless a big is in foul trouble or the game is out of reach.....He is still
needing experience so you probably wont see him in crunch time at the end of the game.

[exstatic]

DOINK!

[wildbill2u]

For a fourth big Baynes is rebounding well and keeping the ball in play or tipping the ball out to a teammate a lot when he doesn't get the ball. And he's definitely handing out a few bruises on both offense and defense. He laid out one net that stood in front of him on a drive and still made the shot.

Shouldn't we be happy with 10 pts and 8 rebounds and a blk in 20 minutes from this guy?

[100%duncan]

DOINK!

Why? He's played a lot better than the whole playing time of errors and clank daye in their careers

[TheGreatYacht]

What Baynes did with the Australian national team, there is no way in that Jeff Ayres can replicate that if they were to switch places. Just look at Ayres during summer league. End of discussion. Baynes > Errors... I don't care what the stats say.

[100%duncan]

What Baynes did with the Australian national team, there is no way in that Jeff Ayres can replicate that if they were to switch places. Just look at Ayres during summer league. End of discussion. Baynes > Errors... I don't care what the stats say.

The stats are even on Baynes' favor

[Ice009]

DOINK!

You're having another dig at Baynes?

[TD 21]

How can it be relative? Having a prime big or an aging veteran doesnt change the importance of a 4th big to a team. It's objective.

You said Baynes should rebound at a high rate, Baynes is our 4th big. You said Baynes is not even good well because he's a 4th big, he was never meant to be good. In fact I challenge you to find a better 4th big in the league, and if you cant even name one then feel lucky that you have a starting big on a national team as your 4th big.

Errors was never considered respectable please. If that's respectable for you and stopping/banging with Howard in 13 or the portland series last playoffs arent then I dont know what to tell you anymore.

Also, you talk about debatability, well then let's make a poll here whether which player does spurs fans think is better errors or baynes. Im willing to bet all except you and exstatic feel the same.

I just explained how. It's common sense.

Again, I explained why I said that. That he's the fourth big the majority of the time is irrelevant. Almost every fourth big the league is clearly better than him. It's Australia and they were missing Bogut. They're not terrible, but suffice it to say, they don't have the embarrassment of riches that the U.S. has.

Ayres had solid numbers two seasons ago and as such, there was reason to think he was on the verge of establishing himself as a fourth big. People keep pointing to two brief, respectable appearances by Baynes, as if they supersede the rest of his play.

Most Spurs fans, like every fan base, have little to no clue what they're talking about. The fact that Baynes is bizarrely beloved and Ayres is despised (despite the fact that there's little, if any, separating them) proves that.

[100%duncan]

I just explained how. It's common sense.

Again, I explained why I said that. That he's the fourth big the majority of the time is irrelevant. Almost every fourth big the league is clearly better than him. It's Australia and they were missing Bogut. They're not terrible, but suffice it to say, they don't have the embarrassment of riches that the U.S. has.

Ayres had solid numbers two seasons ago and as such, there was reason to think he was on the verge of establishing himself as a fourth big. People keep pointing to two brief, respectable appearances by Baynes, as if they supersede the rest of his play.

Most Spurs fans, like every fan base, have little to no clue what they're talking about. The fact that Baynes is bizarrely beloved and Ayres is despised (despite the fact that there's little, if any, separating them) proves that.

No it's not, I just explained that.

Really? Name a fourth big better, go.

Ok so we're dumb and you're the smartest one here.

Look at Baynes' stats this season and find a better 4th/5th big. If you can't then don't even reply here with a "you don't know what you're talking about" bull .

[100%duncan]

Main problem with Spurs fans is that they expect that every man, even the 15th man, will produce as much as what a starter is producing for other teams. Can't appreciate stuff like having a cheap, solid young guy that won't be afraid of anyone when you throw him out there to play.

I guess this is one of the most spoiled fan bases after all, I mean calling them gutless worms after 4 rings. Fitting, right?

[TD 21]

Main problem with Spurs fans is that they expect that every man, even the 15th man, will produce as much as what a starter is producing for other teams. Can't appreciate stuff like having a cheap, solid young guy that won't be afraid of anyone when you throw him out there to play.

I guess this is one of the most spoiled fan bases after all, I mean calling them gutless worms after 4 rings. Fitting, right?

I don't know why novice fans like you think that if they keep repeating this, it makes it true. Nobody with an ounce of knowledge expects that. What we expect is a credible fourth big; preferably one that could credibly play both big positions on both ends, so that they wouldn't have three centers in their rotation. This is why it's unfortunate that Ayres hasn't panned out, because if he were what he was supposed to be, he'd have actually been an ideal fourth big.

[100%duncan]

"Novice fans"

I'd rather be a novice fan than a "fan" that calls out his supposed to be loved team gutless worms.

Are you the kind of person who calls out someone for being a kid? Or for being a newcomer when arguments don't go your way? Or you are simply an old bitter individual?

[ViceCity86]

The more I watch Baynes,more I feel he's an nba player.
He's the 4th big on back 2 back championship teams.

[tim_duncan_fan]

THE FIRE RISES!

[Nero5]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mhZ__SYF_0

[mkurts]

He played better than Daye and is actually useful somewhat

[bluebellmaniac]

Main problem with Spurs fans is that they expect that every man, even the 15th man, will produce as much as what a starter is producing for other teams. Can't appreciate stuff like having a cheap, solid young guy that won't be afraid of anyone when you throw him out there to play.

I guess this is one of the most spoiled fan bases after all, I mean calling them gutless worms after 4 rings. Fitting, right?

+1

[BackHome]

My faith was never caught half stepping and from the Throne of Banger I know that the heretics and apostate have tormented the faithful for far too long; they do not merit the grace of Baynes. Res sacræ, ritus, communio, crypta, potestas, prædia sacra, forum, civilia jura vetantur shall terminate forthwith. I declare exstatic, Mel_13, TD 21, spurraider21, cd021 excommunicate from the Holy Banger. Gone are they forever from the grace of Baynes. May they receive that which they deserve. - FuzzyLumpkins- AKA - The Boognish.....

[BOHOLANO#21]

this Big Banger haters. Baynes is the way better than Ayers and I'm glad Coach Pop finally realized that this season. Baynes getting the regular minutes now will get the painful progression in a very complicated system that Tiago endured before that this stupid posters here undoubtedly tag Tiago suck before and throwing the same now to Baynes.