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    We did win the Vietnam War.

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    Har..har...Yoni playing the race card...

    "“There’s nothing here, not even a bruise.” Nancy Grace gives her blunt analysis on Darren Wilson’s testimony. Several attorneys have commented on the way St. Louis prosecutor Bob McCulloch conducted the non-prosecution “against” Wilson and Wilson’s testimony. Grace is known as someone who is always defending the actions of police officers. Not this time.

    Grace: ”The grand jurors are like sheep, they’re babes in the woods. The prosecutor’s duty is to seek the truth. I am telling you that the prosecutors, if they want an indictment, they will get an indictment. When I went to a grand jury, I went to the grand jury on each case because I believed the offense had been committed and I had the right guy or the police had the right guy, and I went in there to present our evidence. If I didn’t think there was a case I would never have gone to the grand jury. You don’t use the grand jury to achieve your personal gain, to achieve what you want them to do. You go in to get a true verdict.”"* The Young Turks hosts John Iadarola (TYT University) and Ben Mankiewicz break it down.
    *Read more here: http://politic365.com/2014/11/29/it-...ons-testimony/

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    I hope Luther Head (Brown's step dad) is prosecuted to the fullest for inciting a riot with his burn this down comments. Class A felony in Missouri, 15 years minimum, that guy.

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    That's why the wing-nuts are losing this ideological war....they'll blame the media instead of their own ability to deny..deny...deny..

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    Har..har...Yoni playing the race card...



    *Read more here: http://politic365.com/2014/11/29/it-...ons-testimony/
    McColluch knew he didn't have a case, the witness testimony clearly proves this. He was forced to bring it to a grand jury to appease the community of dip s who bought the lies the media was spewing.

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    Bob McCulloch should be charged with accessory to murder after the fact...his performance with the jury was pathetic. He ignored evidence that could have convicted Darren Wilson and then lied about other evidence that he used to justify murder. He is an accessory to murder.

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    It's a legitimate question. What does the shooting of Mike Brown have to do with race?

    He allegedly robbed a convenience store and strong-armed the owner when he tried to stop him (supported by video evidence). He then attacked a Ferguson Police Officer who stopped to tell him to not walk down the center of the street and then noticed he fit the description of the robber and was carrying an item that was the same as what was stolen. During that struggle, he tried to gain control of the officer's service weapon and received a contact gunshot wound to his right thumb for his trouble. After receiving the wound to his hand, he took off running and, when the officer exited his patrol vehicle and pursued, he turned and charged the officer...and was fatally shot for his efforts.

    What does any of that have to do with his race? I suggest if a 6'3", 300lb white man had done the same, he would have received the same.

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    I hope Luther Head (Brown's step dad) is prosecuted to the fullest for inciting a riot with his burn this down comments. Class A felony in Missouri, 15 years minimum, that guy.
    The bigger question is whether McCullough will testify in his defense like he did for Darren Wilson....

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    It's a legitimate question. What does the shooting of Mike Brown have to do with race?

    He allegedly robbed a convenience store and strong-armed the owner when he tried to stop him (supported by video evidence). He then attacked a Ferguson Police Officer who stopped to tell him to not walk down the center of the street and then noticed he fit the description of the robber and was carrying an item that was the same as what was stolen. During that struggle, he tried to gain control of the officer's service weapon and received a contact gunshot wound to his right thumb for his trouble. After receiving the wound to his hand, he took off running and, when the officer exited his patrol vehicle and pursued, he turned and charged the officer...and was fatally shot for his efforts.

    What does any of that have to do with his race? I suggest if a 6'3", 300lb white man had done the same, he would have received the same.
    I suggest the white guy wouldn't have been called out for walking in the street.

    I suggest the cop wouldn't unload his gun wildly in an upscale white neighborhood.

    I suggest the cop wouldn't even be hanging around looking for citizens to hassle in an upscale white neighborhood.

    It doesn't have everything to do with race, but it's a factor.

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    You need to study history.


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    I suggest the white guy wouldn't have been called out for walking in the street.

    I suggest the cop wouldn't unload his gun wildly in an upscale white neighborhood.

    I suggest the cop wouldn't even be hanging around looking for citizens to hassle in an upscale white neighborhood.

    It doesn't have everything to do with race, but it's a factor.
    No, it's not. You're just making up.

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    The bigger question is whether McCullough will testify in his defense like he did for Darren Wilson....
    McCullough didn't testify. But, I'm sure he'll provide the Grand Jury with the same level of thoroughness as he did with Officer Wilson; presenting evidence, offering all potentially applicable indictments for considerations, etc...

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    Har..har...Yoni playing the race card...

    *Read more here: http://politic365.com/2014/11/29/it-...ons-testimony/
    I will agree with the suggestion McCullough didn't want an indictment of Officer Wilson. In a normal world, he would not have even brought the matter to a Grand Jury because, there was zero evidence Wilson acted counter to the law. McCullough would have had to make up facts in order to seek an indictment of Wilson.

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    You need to study history.

    History says that Nixon signed the bipartisan law that stopped bombing for good, which was the only thing that was ever effective against Hanoi.

    The US was done with Vietnam, and the US lost. Trying to prop up the South with some supplies wasn't going to work.

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    History says that Nixon signed the bipartisan law that stopped bombing for good, which was the only thing that was ever effective against Hanoi.
    The Bombing stopped in January 1973 when North Vietnam, the Viet Cong, South Vietnam, and the United States signed the Paris Peace Accord (not a bipartisan law). In the Accord, North Vietnam and the Viet Cong agreed to stop all aggression if we would stop bombing them to oblivion. The Accord also contained a provision that the United States would continue to arm the South Vietnamese and replace their weapons - bullet for bullet, aircraft for aircraft, etc... so long as they were using them in defense against aggression from the North.

    In January 1975, a Democrat Congress defunded our commitment, under the Accord, and North Vietnam started invading South Vietnam again.

    The US was done with Vietnam, and the US lost. Trying to prop up the South with some supplies wasn't going to work.
    I will agree the United States had no stomach to go back to Vietnam -- 2 years after we had secured the peace but, Democrats only made that question relevant to Gerald Ford by closing the purse on our commitment to continue supporting the South with military hardware.

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    Bob McCulloch should be charged with accessory to murder after the fact...his performance with the jury was pathetic. He ignored evidence that could have convicted Darren Wilson and then lied about other evidence that he used to justify murder. He is an accessory to murder.

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    The Bombing stopped in January 1973 when North Vietnam, the Viet Cong, South Vietnam, and the United States signed the Paris Peace Accord (not a bipartisan law). In the Accord, North Vietnam and the Viet Cong agreed to stop all aggression if we would stop bombing them to oblivion. The Accord also contained a provision that the United States would continue to arm the South Vietnamese and replace their weapons - bullet for bullet, aircraft for aircraft, etc... so long as they were using them in defense against aggression from the North.

    In January 1975, a Democrat Congress defunded our commitment, under the Accord, and North Vietnam started invading South Vietnam again.
    The South also agreed to stop fighting -- but didn't.

    The only thing that was really honored in that Accord was the withdrawal of the Americans -- and that was the guarantee the south would fall.

    I will agree the United States had no stomach to go back to Vietnam -- 2 years after we had secured the peace but, Democrats only made that question relevant to Gerald Ford by closing the purse on our commitment to continue supporting the South with military hardware.
    lol secured peace

    No peace was secured. No need to lie about that.

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    ...should have started a Vietnam thread...

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    Bob McCulloch should be charged with accessory to murder after the fact...his performance with the jury was pathetic. He ignored evidence that could have convicted Darren Wilson and then lied about other evidence that he used to justify murder. He is an accessory to murder.
    This I gotta hear.

    What evidence did McCullough ignore and about what evidence did he lie?

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    This I gotta hear.

    What evidence did McCullough ignore and about what evidence did he lie?
    He made the witnesses lie of course.

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    ...should have started a Vietnam thread...
    Chumpdumper would have loved it.

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    This I gotta hear.

    What evidence did McCullough ignore and about what evidence did he lie?
    Lawrence O'Donnell Tue night DESTROYED a WaPo puff job on Fergie prosecutors, with TONS of direct quotes from grand jury transcripts. The prosecution, just like FL's FZ trial, misconducted itself, trying the victim while defending the killer.

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    ^werent u the guy who said "i hope wilson goes to prison for life" before any of the facts of the case were known?

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    ^werent u the guy who said "i hope wilson goes to prison for life" before any of the facts of the case were known?
    maybe, murder of unarmed US citizen by less cop would be usually life, no?

    Witness #10 is what the prosecution used as main MOST CREDIBLE witness, but prosecution didn't point out that witness #10 changed his story dramatically, from being ing 300 ft away 2 weeks after the murder and then to being "only" 150 ft away during the GJ testimony, and that #10 did repeatedly said he wasn't sure what he saw, but the prosecution HARPED on the "fact" the other witnesses against Wilson changed their testimony.

    Brown was convicted and murdered without trial, Wilson was whitewashed.

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    Lawrence O'Donnell Tue night DESTROYED a WaPo puff job on Fergie prosecutors, with TONS of direct quotes from grand jury transcripts. The prosecution, just like FL's FZ trial, misconducted itself, trying the victim while defending the killer.
    Give me the most egregious example, Boutons.

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