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    No one is saying Smith is a scrub.

    He certainly has the talent and potential but he doesn't seem like the type that can mature into a player that knows his role. Doubt that Pop would even put up with his bull .
    True he has had at ude problems in the past but then again he has never been on a team like the Spurs. This team would not put up with that and put him in his place rather quickly and pop would not be afraid to light him up if he needed to. All im saying is if he is willing to put in the work he would be a huge edition for the Spurs. It would also be great for him to be on a team with a wining at ude thats expects maturity and nothing but the best out of him, it would do wonders with him personally just as much as it would do for his nba career. Yes again he has to be "willing" and that is a risk and that I can agree with.

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    and when he does the greys will be like why didn't we even try with money we don't have to spend why are all out players still on the team with their guaranteed contracts. why don't we just cut them which accomplishes nothing we should just trade them if our front office is so great they can trade our crap but our front office isn't good cause we couldn't get rid of jeff ayres
    why has god forsaken us
    its all atheist Manu's fault

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    why has god forsaken us
    its all atheist Manu's fault
    I'm an atheist and I love atheist Manu, tbh.

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    why has god forsaken us
    its all atheist Manu's fault
    I blame the Sikhs. Probably accidentally cut Kawhi's hand with one of those big knives.

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    Exactly. Don't get me wrong, I see the risks, I recognize him as a potential toxin, but I believe in the strength of the Spurs organization/system vis-à-vis taking a gamble like this and surviving it: either because we turn him around without much damage to ourselves or we dump him after he proves worthless without much damage to ourselves. I don't think this is necessarily true for every team that might want to take a go at him, like say, the Sacramento Kings. That would be an entertaining tire fire.
    There's potential that for some teams signing Josh Smith will do to them what Evan Turner's addition supposedly did to the Pacers, I just don't think we're that sort of team. For us it seems high reward/negligible risk.
    This. Worst case scenario is he's a bad locker room guy and he affects the chemistry, but that can easily be fixed by just simply waiving him like Stephen Jackson. The problem is, the Spurs are the 7th seed and they're getting exposed for having scrubs at the end of the bench, thanks to all the injuries. ST just seems to remember his Pistons days where he's surrounded by chuckers like Jennings, Butler, Augistine, Cauldwell-Pope, etc. He actually used to be pretty efficient when he was in Atlanta. There's a bigger plus side than there is negative here. Like I said before... He can't be worse than T-Rex hands, Austin Toro, and 1rpg Bonner.

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    The more I think about it, the more I want Smith going to the Kings. The possibilities for the many trainwrecks it would produce would be endless!

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    2nd thread in a week about a washed-up, former All-Star that can't shoot..

    - Why are there people that keep mentioning Ayres and Bonner? Josh Smith isn't going to accept a role as a 4th big, what the ?..he's known as a cancer with a massive ego, that has always been the case, you believe he's going to join a team where he's going to be a 4th ing big man? He's not going anywhere where he doesn't receive a prominent role

    - Statistically, Josh Smith's only significant impact is defensively, where he has been a high-impact player for his entire career..offensively, he has had some decent seasons, but has been on the downside the past few years, especially as the NBA has evolved to reward shooting ability and stretching the floor..

    The concern with his defense is that it is on the decline(statistically), which is expected for a 29 year old(and came out of High School IIRC, so more mileage) that relies entirely on athleticism for his impact on the floor..

    - Josh Smith hasn't played for a top 15 offense since he was 24 years old(at his athletic peak)..he's not the same player..still a good passer, but doesn't have any other offensive talent, nor does he have any significant ability to explode past defenders, at this point..a 29 year old player that relies entirely on athleticism and can't shoot the ball is not going to be effective..

    - The Pistons releasing him is a sign that he's either a cancer(which has been argued in the past), or that he's so bad that no other team was willing to trade anything for him

    - So, sure, in a dream world where Josh Smith accepts a role as a 4th big that only plays defense and rebounds, he would be perfect for the Spurs..however, this is reality..

    He's going to end up with a team that can give him big minutes and a prominent role, or at least a contender that will give him 30 MPG+ per night..the only fringe contender that would do it in the West is Houston IMO, since Terrence Jones' status seems doubtful, and while that would be a big plus for their defense, it would kill their spacing and mass-3s strategy..there's nothing scary about Josh Smith..

    Maybe the Clippers if they can promise him 30+ as a 3rd big, since both teams will desperately need defense in the playoffs and Rivers probably believes he can get to him, but again, there's nothing scary about going against a 6'9 big man with no post game or shooting ability..

    A ty team like Sacramento makes the most sense..

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    He's absolutely worth the risk, sign him. If Pop can't get him to not be a cancer no one will.

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    It's always the same posters that beg for the Caron Butlers and Danny Grangers, too..some of the same posters in this thread were saying Granger could replace Kawhi and DG, tbh..

    , if Josh Smith accepts a role as a 4th big, anybody would take him, maybe even the Spurs..however, he's not, and I wouldn't rather have him over Splitter or Diaw..

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    Waiting on tspences thoughts.

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    It's always the same posters that beg for the Caron Butlers and Danny Grangers, too..some of the same posters in this thread were saying Granger could replace Kawhi and DG, tbh..

    , if Josh Smith accepts a role as a 4th big, anybody would take him, maybe even the Spurs..however, he's not, and I wouldn't rather have him over Splitter or Diaw..
    The thing is, the fourth big on the Spurs is probably going to start ideally. So Smith may have a decent spot on the team. He might hate not closing, but that probably wouldn't manifest itself all that often, as the team will rest players for most of the RS.

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    People laughed at those of us who wanted Blatche as well. He would have been a great addition in retrospect.
    What on Earth? BKN signed him for two years minimum, and then gave him an invitation to the world this summer. NOBODY in the NBA would sign him after they let him walk. How on Earth do you track that and say he would have been a good signing, in retrospect?

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    5 teams that Josh Smith actually makes sense on

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/12/nba-...vericks-pacers

    3. San Antonio Spurs

    Sure, there’s the temptation to say the Spurs would make the most out of every player, which is true. But Smith actually makes a lot of sense for a team that has gotten so much out of versatile players. Another former castoff, Boris Diaw, and Smith are similar players in their out-sized talents but different enough to play together. Smith would have to come off the bench for the Spurs, but they have had injury issues recently to open up plenty of minutes. And they put enough shooters on the floor to keep him inside.



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    I really want to hear the behind-the-scenes story. It takes a lot more than bad shot selection to make an owner just give up and throw away 30+ million dollars for nothing at all, not even a couple of second round draft picks. Rumors this summer said Greg Monroe didn't want to play with him and asked that he be traded... he denied that later, but it's seems clear they didn't get along so well. The funny thing is, Monroe was playing out of position at PF to accommodate Drummond, and Josh was playing out of position at SF, which he didn't like. I still see Monroe leaving next summer as a free agent, so Detroit will be essentially starting from scratch. If Monroe stays, he'll be making the same mistake Josh did signing there in the first place.

    Detroit will be paying Josh Smith until 2020. Think about that...

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    If the spurs took a flier on him I wouldn't be mad. Bonner and ayres are worlds worst and still get minutes smh.

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    Crazy that for being such a cancer that his team will pay him 40m just to go away, he will get rewarded by starting minutes next to Dwight and make them an instant contender.

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    It's always the same posters that beg for the Caron Butlers and Danny Grangers, too..some of the same posters in this thread were saying Granger could replace Kawhi and DG, tbh..

    , if Josh Smith accepts a role as a 4th big, anybody would take him, maybe even the Spurs..however, he's not, and I wouldn't rather have him over Splitter or Diaw..
    Who the said Granger could replace Kawhi and Green?! Are you serious?

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    Crazy that for being such a cancer that his team will pay him 40m just to go away, he will get rewarded by starting minutes next to Dwight and make them an instant contender.
    What is your proof that he is a Cancer? Being released does not automatically mean one is a cancer. Especially when they have two young prospects.

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    Crazy that for being such a cancer that his team will pay him 40m just to go away, he will get rewarded by starting minutes next to Dwight and make them an instant contender.
    good one

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    What on Earth? BKN signed him for two years minimum, and then gave him an invitation to the world this summer. NOBODY in the NBA would sign him after they let him walk. How on Earth do you track that and say he would have been a good signing, in retrospect?
    Because he was really good for those two years, and his skill-set was perfect for the Spurs. Moreover, it underscores that cancers can play well for good teams even though they never really mature. The fact that he's no longer in the league doesn't negate the fact that the Nets made a good signing.

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    He signed there knowing they had Drummond and Monroe. What did he think was going to happen? So he's a bad decision maker on the court and at choosing teams during free agency.
    How is he a bad decision maker by going to Detroit? He got like $56 million.

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    Did I just read a post saying Josh Smith was just like classball extraordinaire Boris Diaw? Holy , people who post like that need to have their balls chopped off and kids sent to Dachau.

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    What is your proof that he is a Cancer? Being released does not automatically mean one is a cancer. Especially when they have two young prospects.
    "that his team will pay him 40m just to go away"

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    Using the stretch provision, will Detroit have to pay the full amount of Smith's remaining salary? Or will his new contract dollar amount be deducted from the yearly total?

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    Career playoffs TS%: 47..ugh

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