Skip to 0:54 to see why the Spurs want no part of this overrated scrub
This is a funny discussion. It doesnt matter what Josh Smith will do or won't. When you aren't giving up any assets for him he's obv worth the risk at this price. There is no one more talented in the world at this price & if he sucks or won't accept a role you cut him without losing any sleep.
Lineups don't really work with Smith on the Spurs tbh unless you start him or Boris. I would certainly give him Bonner's 18mpg and a second unit of Mills, Marco, Manu, Smith, and Boris would be entertaining to say the least. But he's gonna go start for Houston, nothing else makes sense unless the Kings throw money at him
And this.
Blatche is an outlier, there are far more examples of inefficient players and cancers that didn't improve their situations in their next stint, tbh..
Also, Blatche had a 25+% usage rate with the Nets, the offense revolved around him whenever he was on the floor, in an offense that was one of the top 3 in ISO-based offense the past 2 seasons IIRC(statistically)..he was given a role where he proved himself and he was permitted to be the primary offensive focus when he was on the floor..
I don't think Smith has the tools that Blatche has, too..the only offensive talent Josh Smith possesses at this point is his passing ability IMO..
I'm not going to cite his atrocious Synergy and individual stats, I'll give him a pass for being on a Pistons team that has minimal perimeter talent, but just based on logic, I don't see how Smith can effectively help an offense at his current age and declining athleticism in a starting role on a team..
Josh Smith is still a solid defender, and that's the only reason to sign him IMO..he's only really had 1 or 2 notable offensive seasons, but he was absolutely an elite and underrated defender in his athletic prime..if he accepts a lesser role, it's a no-brainer, but I just don't believe he would do it, and his ego is much larger than somebody like Blatche who was almost out of the NBA when he decided to clean up his act..
"According to Synergy Sports, Smith is in the bottom 8 percent in overall points per possession, bottom 6 percent in transition PPP, bottom 11 percent in halfcourt, and bottom 21 percent after timeouts. He's bottom 10 percent on pick-and-rolls, bottom 12 percent on spot-ups (on which he takes a full quarter of his shots), and es to a frigid 23rd percentile mark for post-ups. This year at least, like the previous few, Josh cannot shoot."
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It makes a lot of sense for Houston, though..
They don't have a starting PF if Jones is out for the year, and he's one of the most underrated players in the league(matchup nightmare for the Spurs, last season)..they desperately need depth in the frontcourt, and Montejunas shouldn't be starting(would be an awesome bench big)..
Smith-Howard will be terrible offensively, but it'll be great from a defensive standpoint, and it fills a huge need for the Rockets..it's not a "scary" move, since I don't think Josh Smith is anything special at this point of his career(and frankly, I'd take Jones over him), but it's definitely a nice ugprade in their frontcourt, and maybe he'll be motivated to play better, too..
Sacramento would be a disaster..
yeah, entertainment for the whole family
Is this going to be another 100 page thread?
All that's needed now is Tspence.
A fast break of Smith-Leonard could be deadly.
Wrong guy. You're thinking JR Smith...
Josh Smith on the fast break???
Clips, Cavs, Mavs in that order, tbh.
Gotta be honest, it has been awhile since I've seen the guy run a break
I think Chinook got the rather poor taste joke, IMO
Where's that Andre Bell troll?
For people not wanting Smith would knowledge that kawhi's injury is significant change anything?
Are we speaking hypothetically here?
Well there is some concerning news in the "Tony,Kl,patty are out tomorrow" thread.
No. For the clowns who aren't willing to take Josh Smith for cheap as a low risk high reward signing, the Kawhi injury shouldn't have any impact or change in their delusional thinking patterns whatsoever.
To think fans actually value Bonner, Ayres and Daye more than Smith is pretty comical, tbh.
Last year's playoffs:
Bonner- 6 MPG
Baynes- 7 MPG in 14 games
Ayres 4 MPG in 17 games
Daye- DNP
How do people figure Josh Smith would be replacing any of these guys?
He's not joining a team where he would be playing 15 MPG, wow..
He would get 35-40 MPG with the Rockets in the playoffs, same with joining the Heat..even if the Clippers took a flier on him, they could play him as a 3rd big for at least 30 MPG, too(especially since Jordan often has to be taken out, although Smith is just as poor of a FT shooter)..
If he goes to Sacramento, he gets a lot more money, along with 40 MPG..
I know you're pretty much the forum moron, but most of us know Smith isn't coming here to be a role player.No. For the clowns who aren't willing to take Josh Smith for cheap as a low risk high reward signing, the Kawhi injury shouldn't have any impact or change in their delusional thinking patterns whatsoever.
He'll get what he earns. No playoff team is going to floor Smith 35-40 mpg unless he's paying huge dividends. Spurs would be no different in that respect. He could easily get 15-20 mpg in the playoffs for the Spurs on most nights if he is playing well. He's still a better defender than Baynes, Diaw, Bonner and Belinelli. Signing him for the rest of the season isn't going to hurt the Spurs or Smith for that matter. It's the true definition of low risk/high reward. He can sign with whomever he chooses in the offseason for any amount of money that teams are willing to pay. Detroit still owes him nearly 26.5M so he might choose playing for a contender rather than a pretender (Sacramento) for the remainder of the season.Last year's playoffs:
Bonner- 6 MPG
Baynes- 7 MPG in 14 games
Ayres 4 MPG in 17 games
Daye- DNP
How do people figure Josh Smith would be replacing any of these guys?
He's not joining a team where he would be playing 15 MPG, wow..
He would get 35-40 MPG with the Rockets in the playoffs, same with joining the Heat..even if the Clippers took a flier on him, they could play him as a 3rd big for at least 30 MPG, too(especially since Jordan often has to be taken out, although Smith is just as poor of a FT shooter)..
If he goes to Sacramento, he gets a lot more money, along with 40 MPG..
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