Let's be real, Danny Green is getting the max

[spursparker9]

How is the Danny's relationship with Lebron?

[hitmantb]

I'm saying every player that isn't a 2-way superstar(which is rare) has a niche in the NBA..

Green's inability to consistently create for himself doesn't dilute his value, his niche is one of the most difficult roles to fill in the league..

I'd have to check the numbers again, but he also has one of the best "gravitational pull" rankings in the league(Steph Curry is by far #1, for example)..his presence helps create for others without him even needing to physically pass them the ball..

There are a lot of players who think they can create themselves and end up being ball hogs and create conflicts with true stars of the team, and need a lot of touches to get going.

The way Danny can start hitting from range WITHOUT touching the ball is an unbelievable quality. In today's NBA spacing is PREMIUM, it allows for easier drives to the paint, it allows for better ball movement, like I said before Danny's 3 point attempts average more points than prime Shaq, that is how deadly he is and that alone creates more than enough opportunities for others.

[Raven]

disagree. 1 trick ponies are required to be stellar defenders.

antony morrow?

[pgardn]

weeeeeell weeeeeell weeeeeeell... giving up on the ferrari and going all dodge viper on us ?

Leonard is the future.
Hes trolling or on mushrooms.

[Raven]

Leonard is the future.
Hes trolling or on mushrooms.

wtf are you even talking about tbh

[pgardn]

There are a lot of players who think they can create themselves and end up being ball hogs and create conflicts with true stars of the team, and need a lot of touches to get going.

The way Danny can start hitting from range WITHOUT touching the ball is an unbelievable quality. In today's NBA spacing is PREMIUM, it allows for easier drives to the paint, it allows for better ball movement, like I said before Danny's 3 point attempts average more points than prime Shaq, that is how deadly he is and that alone creates more than enough opportunities for others.

Thats fine. But when he steals the ball and has trouble getting to the rim for a layup if dribbling is required, that's not good. The guy gives me heart attacks in the open floor on breaks dribbling. He has improved however.

[hater]

antony morrow?

we are obviously talking about championship contenders.

[pgardn]

wtf are you even talking about tbh

Leonard< Green as a statement.
I think that's Fkn stupid.

Got it?

[Malik Hairston]

Bowen was great and all, but he also had one of the 5 greatest defensive players of all-time anchoring the defense behind him, and Alonzo Mourning behind him in Miami..

[SupremeGuy]

Did Bruce Bowen get a max contract in his prime?

You have a solid argument, but it really is different times we're living in, tbh. GMs are throwing max money at anyone these days.

[Chinook]

Bowen brought a disruptive quality that got into opponents heads that Danny does not seem to have the personality for. Bowen played mental games. Good stuff.

Eh, mind games are overrated. Most of the elite perimeter defenders nowadays don't do that stuff. If Danny consistently holds his guys to low PPPs and has great on/off metrics, his methodology shouldn't matter. , Lebron is possibly his best friend in the league, and that didn't stop Danny from making the greatest defensive play in Spurs history against him.

Thats fine. But when he steals the ball and has trouble getting to the rim for a layup if dribbling is required, that's not good. The guy gives me heart attacks in the open floor on breaks dribbling. He has improved however.

You can focus on the flaws of any player. You don't think Klay has problems dribbling or playing off shooters?

[pgardn]

Eh, mind games are overrated. Most of the elite perimeter defenders nowadays don't do that stuff. If Danny consistently holds his guys to low PPPs and has great on/off metrics, his methodology shouldn't matter. , Lebron is possibly his best friend in the league, and that didn't stop Danny from making the greatest defensive play in Spurs history against him.



You can focus on the flaws of any player. You don't think Klay has problems dribbling or playing off shooters?

Not near the level of Green, no I dont.

[phxspurfan]

You have a solid argument, but it really is different times we're living in, tbh. GMs are throwing max money at anyone these days.

This is true. I think Danilo Gallniari got a huge ass contract. Possibly the most undeserving ever

[pgardn]

Eh, mind games are overrated. Most of the elite perimeter defenders nowadays don't do that stuff. If Danny consistently holds his guys to low PPPs and has great on/off metrics, his methodology shouldn't matter. , Lebron is possibly his best friend in the league, and that didn't stop Danny from making the greatest defensive play in Spurs history against him.



You can focus on the flaws of any player. You don't think Klay has problems dribbling or playing off shooters?

Not with Bowen. They may not work in today's NBA.

Bowen's footwork on D was once in a franchise type stuff.
Danny's ability to disrupt at the rim on seemingly easy finishes is amazing.

[look_at_g_shred]

This is true. I think Danilo Gallniari got a huge ass contract. Possibly the most undeserving ever

Actually that dude was ballin before his injury in 2013. Speaking of undeserving, let's talk Hayward (insert sick emoji)

[Chinook]

Not near the level of Green, no I dont.

Then you illustrate the effect comments from coaches has on perception. Green's only had nine lost-ball turnovers to Klay's 18, and before you say that's because Klay handles the ball more, Klay has 58 total TOs to Green's 41. So Thompson has more of his TOs from bad handles than Danny does. Danny shoots 48 percent from two, while Thompson shoots 47 percent. Klay's better at layups, (66 percent to Danny's 63 percent), but on shots from 3-10 feet (floaters, runners, hooks), Danny is at 44 percent while Thompson is at 39 percent. So Green's actually better at shots that require adjustment on the drive.

There's not much evidence to show why Thompson is worth twice as much as Green. If Klay can get the max, Danny can probably get somewhere close to it. He won't (thank the stars), but he could.

[Chinook]

Not with Bowen. They may not work in today's NBA.

Bowen's footwork on D was once in a franchise type stuff.
Danny's ability to disrupt at the rim on seemingly easy finishes is amazing.

Yeah, they were different and great in their own ways. But people should remember that Bowen would hold his guards to their averages, just with them putting in more effort. Green and Leonard go far, far beyond that. The standard for good perimeter defense (statistically) is so much higher now than it was in Bowen's time.

[TheGreatYacht]

The system is extremely overrated.

Mainstream fans think it doesn't matter who is on the floor..They would still be a really good team.

In reality, the spurs have a 0.40 record without Kawhi in the last two years....

And going down....

About time you speak the truth. People think no other team will get Danny Green open

[apalisoc_9]

Bowen is my favorite spur during the Big 3 era, but no way I take him over Green who is a much better offensive player.

That's just re ed Nostalgia BS.

[look_at_g_shred]

Yeah, they were different and great in their own ways. But people should remember that Bowen would hold his guards to their averages, just with them putting in more effort. Green and Leonard go far, far beyond that. The standard for good perimeter defense (statistically) is so much higher now than it was in Bowen's time.

Because that is what drives the NBA these days...the 3 ball. The game isn't the same.

[timtonymanu]

Green > Bowen.

And Bruce will always be my dude.

[ElNono]

Then you illustrate the effect comments from coaches has on perception. Green's only had nine lost-ball turnovers to Klay's 18, and before you say that's because Klay handles the ball more, Klay has 58 total TOs to Green's 41. So Thompson has more of his TOs from bad handles than Danny does. Danny shoots 48 percent from two, while Thompson shoots 47 percent. Klay's better at layups, (66 percent to Danny's 63 percent), but on shots from 3-10 feet (floaters, runners, hooks), Danny is at 44 percent while Thompson is at 39 percent. So Green's actually better at shots that require adjustment on the drive.

There's not much evidence to show why Thompson is worth twice as much as Green. If Klay can get the max, Danny can probably get somewhere close to it. He won't (thank the stars), but he could.

How much more does Klay handle the ball than Danny though? Also, how do assisted vs unassisted shots compare between them?

[Chinook]

Because that is what drives the NBA these days...the 3 ball. The game isn't the same.

What?

[baseline bum]

I have been saying for a year that this dude's gonna be getting paid $9 million a year or so on his next deal.

[ElNono]

FWIW, I thought Klay was overpaid