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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...lege/21466969/

    Translation: Obummer wants to gouge the taxpayers for a watered-down college "education" from the same people who ruined K-12 schools.

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    There are worse ways to spend 75 billion per...but the costs will e without price regulation...

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    Continuing the trend of college degrees becoming more and more worthless.

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    Higher Education is a crap shoot with the odds in your favor....not a cure all...

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    America needs more doctors, engineers & high school teachers tbh. The MCATs are so cutthroat and hard that people go abroad for their med school. With all that time, they begin preparing for the USMLEs (residency exam) from the first year of their med school itself.

    It's good to be a doctor though. Thebesteva is the only poor doctor (atleast he pretends to be) that i know. I'm pretty sure he's wetting himself at night thinking of the day he'll delivery of a Porsche 911. The 911 is all doctors think of once they finish residency tbh.

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    sucks it's only two years... and if States have to chip in, forget about it... the plan should also include more funding and support for vocational schools, too

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    "Community colleges have to raise their game by establishing standards to allow students to transfer those credits to a four-year degree,"
    That will pretty much flunk out 75% of the people who spend 2 years at community colleges.

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    It's free yet the government only pays for 3/4 of it.

    Community college math smh

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    sucks it's only two years... and if States have to chip in, forget about it... the plan should also include more funding and support for vocational schools, too
    The people I know who went to vocational schools are more successful than the ones who got a 2 year degree from community colleges.

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    The people I know who went to vocational schools are more successful than the ones who got a 2 year degree from community colleges.
    Troof imo.

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    The people I know who went to vocational schools are more successful than the ones who got a 2 year degree from community colleges.
    Varies by people, tbh...

    Access to education is one area where I don't have a problem with government spending. Especially with the BS tuition prices...

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    Community college is already practically free if you go locally.

    It's a waste of time and money since most community college classes are jokes. If you haven't learned how to read and write by then you never will.

    Any class you took you wanted to "transfer" to a four year college for a degree (like calculus) you'd probably have to take over anyway.

    It's worth it if you are already smart but underachieving. You go there, get A's, and transfer somewhere else.

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    It's a waste of time and money since most community college classes are jokes. If you haven't learned how to read and write by then you never will.
    Not true.,,,thanks to the way public education is funded in Texas those who need the most help always get the least...

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    Any class you took you wanted to "transfer" to a four year college for a degree (like calculus) you'd probably have to take over anyway.
    Most majors only require Algebra 2....which I think can be taught at a community college..

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    Most majors only require Algebra 2....
    That's ing sad.

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    Varies by people, tbh...

    Access to education is one area where I don't have a problem with government spending. Especially with the BS tuition prices...
    I'm sure there is truth to that but comparing what a community college offers versus a vocational school I'd say the vocational school does a better job of preparing someone to actually get a job. The SAC program just seems like a prep program to go onto a 4 year degree which is a waste of time for someone who already decided not to pursue a 4 year degree for whatever reason.

    San Antonio College
    Associate of Science, concentration in Computer Science
    This Associate of Science degree prepares students for entry-level positions as software developers.

    Degree Requirements (Total Credit Hours 65)
    Communication (10) Core – 2 courses (6 credit hours)
    •ENGL 1301 - Composition I
    •ENGL 1302 - Composition II
    Additional Communication (11) Core – 1 course (3 credit hours)
    Select 1 course from the Additional Communication (11) Core
    Mathematics (20) Core – 1 course (4 credit hours)
    •MATH 2412 - Precalculus
    Natural Sciences (30) Core – 2 courses (8 credit hours)
    •PHYS 2425 - University Physics I
    •PHYS 2426 - University Physics II
    Humanities (40) Core – 1 course (3 credit hours)
    Select 1 course from the Humanities (40) Core
    Additional Humanities (41) Core – 1 course (3 credit hours)
    Select 1 course from the Additional Humanities (41) Core
    Visual and Performing Arts (50) Core – 1 course (3 credit hours)
    Select 1 course from the Visual and Performing Arts (50) Core
    History (60) Core – 2 courses (6 credit hours)
    Select 2 courses from the History (60) Core
    Government (70) Core – 2 courses (6 credit hours)
    •GOVT 2305 - Federal Government
    •GOVT 2306 - Texas Government
    Social and Behavioral Sciences (80) Core – 1 course (3 credit hours)
    Select 1 course from the Social and Behavioral Sciences (80) Core
    Additional Requirements (20 credit hours)
    •COSC 1336 - Programming Fundamentals I
    •COSC 1337 - Programming Fundamentals II
    •COSC 2325 - Computer Organization and Machine Language
    •COSC 2336 - Programming Fundamentals III
    •MATH 2413 - Calculus I
    •MATH 2414 - Calculus II
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    General Education Courses
    CO2520T Communications 4.5 54
    EN1320T Composition I 4.5 67
    EN1420T Composition II 4.5 54
    MA1210T College Mathematics I 4.5 54
    MA1310T College Mathematics II 4.5 54
    SP2750T Group Theory 4.5 54
    Subtotal 27.0 337


    Core Courses
    NT1110T Computer Structure and Logic 4.5 67
    PT1420T Introduction to Programming 4.5 67
    SD1230T Introduction to Application Design and Development 4.5 67
    SD1240T Creating Websites Using HTML and CSS 4.5 67
    SD1340T Creating Websites Using HTML5, CSS3 and JavaScript 4.5 67
    SD1420T Introduction to Java Programming 4.5 67
    SD1430T Introduction to Mobile Operating Systems 4.5 67
    SD2520T Introduction to Database and XML with jQuery 4.5 67
    SD2550T Application Development Using Java I 4.5 67
    SD2650T Application Development Using Java II 4.5 67
    SD2670T Social Networking Applications and Technology 4.5 67
    SD2799T Software Development Capstone Project 4.5 72
    Subtotal 54.0 809


    Elective Courses
    ---------- Unspecified Elective course* 3.0 48


    General Studies Courses
    GS1140T Problem Solving Theory 4.5 54
    GS1145T Strategies for the Technical Professional 4.5 67
    Subtotal 9.0 121



    Program Total 93.0
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    , even doctors only take up to Cal 1....I used to tutor them and they sucked...

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    I'm sure there is truth to that but comparing what a community college offers versus a vocational school I'd say the vocational school does a better job of preparing someone to actually get a job. The SAC program just seems like a prep program to go onto a 4 year degree which is a waste of time for someone who already decided not to pursue a 4 year degree for whatever reason.
    I'm sorry, having worked in the for profit education industry, please don't compare ITT to any real school. Substandard rigor + 52k for an associates would like to say hi.
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    Also, you can learn vocational trades at CC. For example, Accd has hvac certifications (among others).

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    That will pretty much flunk out 75% of the people who spend 2 years at community colleges.
    Sad but true. A lot of community college curriculum is devoted to re-teaching the they were supposed to learn in K-12.

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    Sad but true. A lot of community college curriculum is devoted to re-teaching the they were supposed to learn in K-12.
    On the other hand, there are some courses at the local community colleges are = to the hardest 4 year schools. I took a Chemistry for Science and Engineers class at UTSA as an adult for fun and got to be friends with the professor. He also taught Chemistry at SAC. He got great joy from the kids from A&M and Texas etc. who tried to take his chemistry class in the summertime thinking it would be "easier" than the one at their "good" school.

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    Maybe it's because I'm a parent, but this seems like a good thing to me.

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    Repugs will of course do everything they can to kill any pro-99% program.

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    Sad but true. A lot of community college curriculum is devoted to re-teaching the they were supposed to learn in K-12.
    somehow, America got pretty damn far on tax-payer, no-profit K-12 schooling. You mofo's who say K12 sucks have been suckered by BigCorp and 1% who see taxpayers' $Ts for K12 in THEIR bank accounts and who have been trashing, killing K12 teachers, unions as Dem voters, contributors.

    y'all beloved no-profit charter schools often out-source their entire operations to for-profit contractors, which was the scam all along.

    btw, the new NATIONAL GED aligned with the Common Core is being trashed, resisted because it's "too hard", so some states, esp red states (right to be dumb and right to work for less) have set up their own EASIER GED so their dumb s can LIE that they have "useful" HS equiv diploma.

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    somehow, America got pretty damn far on tax-payer, no-profit K-12 schooling. You mofo's who say K12 sucks have been suckered by BigCorp and 1% who see taxpayers' $Ts for K12 in THEIR bank accounts and who have been trashing, killing K12 teachers, unions as Dem voters, contributors.

    y'all beloved no-profit charter schools often out-source their entire operations to for-profit contractors, which was the scam all along.

    btw, the new NATIONAL GED aligned with the Common Core is being trashed, resisted because it's "too hard", so some states, esp red states (right to be dumb and right to work for less) have set up their own EASIER GED so their dumb s can LIE that they have "useful" HS equiv diploma.
    You are a stupid .

    http://www.highereducation.org/repor...ness/gap.shtml


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