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    a lot of people say no

    I don't think anybody will take a risk on Parker and his contract before knowing if he can come back at a decent level
    I disagree. Lots of folks would want to take a risk on Parker. He would be a great triangle offense PG for e.g. and will be a great fit in NY.

    Methinks, when he gets better health-wise, he will have a productive year or two for the Spurs. Waste of time thinking of a trade this season. Offseason, if opportunities present itself (and Manu/TD retire), perhaps.

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    a lot of people say no

    I don't think anybody will take a risk on Parker and his contract before knowing if he can come back at a decent level
    He has a better track-record than Williams, and he's set to expire with Gay/Cousin. I think SAC would love to have him, especially because he's cheaper.

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    If ever I decided to trade Parker, I would do so only if there is a young big got in return who could be developed to add to a post-TD frontline and to perform adequately.
    No team's going to trade a big with potential for a declining point guard that's on a really bad contract.

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    Williams is a bust, but he's pretty much just salary ballast. The point of trading Parker would be to free cap space. So even though Thompson is better, he wouldn't be a great target. I think Collison can give what the Spurs realistically expect from Parker. However, he doesn't have as much upside. We're also talking about a lottery pick, though, which is nice in a big-heavy draft. And it creates a small TE. Not exactly a terrible haul, in my opinion.

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    He has a better track-record than Williams, and he's set to expire with Gay/Cousin. I think SAC would love to have him, especially because he's cheaper.
    I still think it is not the best time for Spurs to trade him... but yeah you maybe right I can see a team trying to get him cheap and betting on his recovery

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    Trying to win a le with Collison? Good luck.

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    H2H stats this season against one another:

    20.5 ppg/8.0 apg/4.0 rpg/1.0 spg/1.0 bpg/2.5 TOs on 53 TS% - DWill
    15.5 ppg/6.5 apg/1.5 rpg/0.5 spg/0.0 bpg/3.0 TOs on 56 TS% - Parker

    He doesn't destroy Parker the way Westbrook does but it's still's an easy win for DWill. In any case, I did say it's not much of an upgrade. Deron's a cancer in the lockeroom and his contract is worse than Parker's so it's not worth it anyway. I only mentioned Nets players because they would be one of the few teams in the league dumb enough to take Parker...unfortunately they're riddled with bad contracts so there's nothing to gain from a Brooklyn trade.

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    If we can get nuggets as a third team to give us Chandler or afflalo over derrick it would look much better.

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    H2H stats this season against one another:

    20.5 ppg/8.0 apg/4.0 rpg/1.0 spg/1.0 bpg/2.5 TOs on 53 TS% - DWill
    15.5 ppg/6.5 apg/1.5 rpg/0.5 spg/0.0 bpg/3.0 TOs on 56 TS% - Parker

    He doesn't destroy Parker the way Westbrook does but it's still's an easy win for DWill. In any case, I did say it's not much of an upgrade. Deron's a cancer in the lockeroom and his contract is worse than Parker's so it's not worth it anyway. I only mentioned Nets players because they would be one of the few teams in the league dumb enough to take Parker...unfortunately they're riddled with bad contracts so there's nothing to gain from a Brooklyn trade.
    The fact that TP has a ty season so far does not erase the fact he has been a much much better player than Dwill since dude has been traded to NY. DWill did not play any decent bb for 4-5 years... his FG% is putrid and compared to him Parker D looks stellar. With DWill you know what you have... a fat PG who gave a the last time 6 years ago with one of the most awful contract in NBA history.

    Parker can still turn it around... DWill is done.

    I'm just at your dumb enough, if BKN could somehow swap both contract they would look like freaking genius... DWill is eating 22 M of salary cap. If Dwill was Spurs PG you would have terminated your life...


    BTW I'm still waiting for your come back on the RAPM thread that showed Manu 6th in the league last year and Parker 12th tbh....

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    Trying to win a le with Collison? Good luck.
    Always liked Collison... one of the most underrated role player of the league imho

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    The fact that TP has a ty season so far does not erase the fact he has been a much much better player than Dwill since dude has been traded to NY. DWill did not play any decent bb for 4-5 years... his FG% is putrid and compared to him Parker D looks stellar. With DWill you know what you have... a fat PG who gave a the last time 6 years ago with one of the most awful contract in NBA history.

    Parker can still turn it around... DWill is done.

    I'm just at your dumb enough, if BKN could somehow swap both contract they would look like freaking genius... DWill is eating 22 M of salary cap. If Dwill was Spurs PG you would have terminated your life...
    relax man, I did say it wasn't much of an upgrade and already brought up Deron's poisonous contract making it impossible. You're way too defensive when it comes to Tony.

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    relax man, I did say it wasn't much of an upgrade and already brought up Deron's poisonous contract making it impossible. You're way too defensive when it comes to Tony.
    sure

    and you are still with the "they would be one of the few teams in the league dumb enough to take Parker"

    still waiting your RAPM exit that's some powerful advanced metrics right there....



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    You guys need to stop dreaming of the Spurs trading Parker. It will not happen. It would take a ridiculous trade in their favor, which they would not do. Parker will play better, and he is better than the majority of the starting point guards. I doubt the Spurs make a move, but if they did, it would be to bring in a quality small forward to back up Kawhi. That said, I really doubt we make any trades. There is a possibility that we sign a player after the trade deadline that is bought out for the rest of the season. I could see that happening. But the Spurs want to repeat with Tim, Tony, and Manu and it would take some extraordinary offer to have them give up a guard like Tony. We are in win-now mode, so we aren't trading a player of Tony Parker's quality for a "young big" that won't get off the bench in the playoffs.

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    SPURS won't trade Parker unless Parker wants to be traded. The team values loyalty (not the loyalty which exists only in Derek Anderson's mind)

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    Tony isn't going anywhere, tbh... neither is Mills, IMO.

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    So if a new PG comes in for Parker as many as you wish. You expect things just to keep going as is? Chemistry? Learn the O? Very specific plays are privileged to play here. Maybe you should be happy with what you got. Josh Smith seems to be working great for Houston where they are now 10-7 with him...

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    In before Chris Broussard.

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    Tony isn't going anywhere, tbh... neither is Mills, IMO.

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    So if a new PG comes in for Parker as many as you wish. You expect things just to keep going as is? Chemistry? Learn the O? Very specific plays are privileged to play here. Maybe you should be happy with what you got. Josh Smith seems to be working great for Houston where they are now 10-7 with him...
    The idea is to promote Mills or Joseph, who already have chemistry and knowledge of the offense. There are reasons to think trading Tony is silly, but worrying about finding a PG who fits in with the team is not one of them.

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    Only time to talk about trading Parker is this offseason if he picks it up and shows his problems were injuries he got over vs. age. Market would be decent for someone making $12.5mm a year (3 more years), which is pretty much middle of the road for point guards. There's a big difference between trading a deal that big and a max deal.

    That said, not sure what sparing Parker's cap space does. Only a few guys are worth the max this offseason and likely aren't on the move. Dragic maybe? But wouldn't a team try to go sign him instead of trading assets for Parker? And anyone trading assets for Parker = likely sending salary back in return so there goes the cap space argument.

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    Most teams in the league are going to worry about what they are getting if the Spurs started shopping Tony Parker. Why would a le contending team looking to win in the short run trade its starting point guard?

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    The idea is to promote Mills or Joseph, who already have chemistry and knowledge of the offense. There are reasons to think trading Tony is silly, but worrying about finding a PG who fits in with the team is not one of them.
    Neither of those guys can run a team for 82 games and high minutes

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    If the Spurs trade Parker, I'll kill myself and die happy, tbh..

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    Drummond for CoJo works in the trade machine. So if Detroit needs a backup pg. They probably say no lol.
    Wet dream, how awesome is that guy. Drummond is the n .

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    It would be great to ship out Ayres for a top-55 protected pick to free up a roster spot + sign JGreen to one of those 1 guaranteed & 2 team option deals, freeing up a roster spot for an inevitable buyout. What does the buyout market look like? Given how many teams are competing, it seems pretty bleak.
    Make no mistake. If the Spurs sign someone else JGreen is on a fast train, er bus, to Austin. Ayres guaranteed money and improved performance guarantee that.

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