Lakers: Wayne Ellington

[Splits]

Oh wait, fail, tbh..I was looking at the wrong link..

They have virtually the same RAPM, this season, but Kobe is still superior, as he has way more possessions and minutes..

but they're adjusted, why do possessions and minutes matter

Players that have a better RAPM than Kobe, but worse than gy (according to your link)

Derrick Rose
Joel Freeland
Robert Covington
Ed Davis
Austin Daye
Nate Robinson
Thaddeus Young
Nikola Vucevic
Bismack Biyombo
Shelvin Mack
Quincy Pondexter
Clint Capela
Larry Drew
C.J. Wilcox
Lucas Nogueira
Kalin Lucas
Nick Johnson
Kyle Singler
Gary Harris
Andre Dawkins
Russ Smith
Jason Terry
Troy Daniels
Jabari Parker
Jeremy Lin
Nate Wolters


just go to sleep fool

[Malik Hairston]

but they're adjusted, why do possessions and minutes matter

Players that have a better RAPM than Kobe, but worse than gy (according to your link)

Derrick Rose
Joel Freeland
Robert Covington
Ed Davis
Austin Daye
Nate Robinson
Thaddeus Young
Nikola Vucevic
Bismack Biyombo
Shelvin Mack
Quincy Pondexter
Clint Capela
Larry Drew
C.J. Wilcox
Lucas Nogueira
Kalin Lucas
Nick Johnson
Kyle Singler
Gary Harris
Andre Dawkins
Russ Smith
Jason Terry
Troy Daniels
Jabari Parker
Jeremy Lin
Nate Wolters


just go to sleep fool

You clearly need to look into the meaning of these numbers..

RAPM is supposed to compare players with:

1- Similar possession numbers
2- Combined with other advanced metrics(usage rates and volume metrics), players with similar roles to each other

Kobe has played approximately 1500 possessions more than Young..makes a huge difference..

[Splits]

Young -0.6 approx 3000 possessions
Kobe -0.8 approx 4500 possessions

Young 15.5 PER
Kobe 17.5 PER

Young -0.2 VORP
Kobe 1.6 VORP

PER

We can all cherry-pick adv mets

Young: 0.74 WS/48
Kirby: .005 WS/48

Young: 1.2 WS
Kirby: 0.1 WS

Young: 1.2 OWS
Kirby: -0.4 OWS (team worst )

[Malik Hairston]

If you're going to ignore context and sample sizes, then Hassan Whiteside is the 2nd best big man in the league, according to most advanced metrics..

[Malik Hairston]

PER

We can all cherry-pick adv mets

Young: 0.74 WS/48
Kirby: .005 WS/48

Young: 1.2 WS
Kirby: 0.1 WS

Young: 1.2 OWS
Kirby: -0.4 OWS (team worst )

Win Shares is a weak stat, as I've been saying for years..you can throw it in as an add-on, that's fine, but like offensive/defensive rating, it should just be a throw-in, peripheral stat, not your main argument(really easy to poke holes in it)..

PER is a good box score stat to evaluate individual performance, which is the only thing both Kobe and Nick Young are aiming for..

[Splits]

Win Shares is a weak stat, as I've been saying for years..you can throw it in as an add-on, that's fine, but like offensive/defensive rating, it should just be a throw-in, peripheral stat, not your main argument(really easy to poke holes in it)..

PER is a good box score stat to evaluate individual performance, which is the only thing both Kobe and Nick Young are aiming for..

RAPM is so far ahead of the adv stat times that the only link available on the entire interwebs is some appspot.com 1999 Lotus-123 bull spreadsheet

can't even upgrade to Excel 2005

[spurraider21]

RAPM is so far ahead of the adv stat times that the only link available on the entire interwebs is some appspot.com 1999 Lotus-123 bull spreadsheet

can't even upgrade to Excel 2005

[Splits]

Who can keep with technology when you're so deep into the numbers

[ambchang]

Win Shares is a weak stat, as I've been saying for years..you can throw it in as an add-on, that's fine, but like offensive/defensive rating, it should just be a throw-in, peripheral stat, not your main argument(really easy to poke holes in it)..

PER is a good box score stat to evaluate individual performance, which is the only thing both Kobe and Nick Young are aiming for..

PER is a summary of basic stats using random weights that has no true bearing of how well a player contributes to a game.

While WS has its flaws, it's a much better representation of how well a player helps his team win (which at the end is all you want) than RAPM, which is really covered in fuzzy math and unknown normalizations.

RAPM is also prone to overrating/underrating a player based on the strength of the bench. If a player is replaced by Eric Bledsoe, he is going to look a lot worse than another player replaced by Austin Rivers. Not to mention that the number of possessions argument indicates Kawhi > Lebron, and stat also says Draymond Green > Klay Thompson, not mention Amir Johnson is some superstar level player.

[DMC]

Black man dating a woman that has created a career from mocking Black culture..

What better way to retaliate than anal penetration?

[Red Hawk #21]

RAPM is so far ahead of the adv stat times that the only link available on the entire interwebs is some appspot.com 1999 Lotus-123 bull spreadsheet

can't even upgrade to Excel 2005