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    ...when the right starting lineup basically makes itself?

    Wins Produced

    1. Duncan
    2. Green
    3. Leonard
    4. Joseph
    5. Ginobili
    ..
    7. Splitter (in 1/2 the minutes)
    ..
    9. Baynes
    10.

    WP/48

    1. Duncan
    2. Leonard
    3. Green
    4. Joseph
    5. Splitter
    ...
    10. Baynes
    13.

    Win Shares

    1. Duncan
    2. Green
    3. Leonard
    4. Joseph
    5. Ginobili
    6. Splitter (in less minutes)
    7. Baynes
    ...
    10.


    WS/48

    1. Duncan
    2. Splitter
    3. (small sample size)
    4. Leonard
    5. Joseph
    6. Green
    7. Baynes
    ...
    13.

    PER (Terrible stat tbh)

    1. Duncan
    2. Leonard
    3. Splitter
    4. Ginobili
    5. Joseph
    6. Green
    7. Baynes
    ...
    9.


    PoP/48

    1. Duncan
    2. Leonard
    3. Green
    4. Joseph
    5. Splitter
    ...
    10. Baynes
    ...
    13.


    VORP

    1. Duncan
    2. Green
    3. Leonard
    4. Ginobili
    5. Joseph
    6. Splitter
    ...
    14.Baynes
    ...
    ....
    ...
    17.


    BPM

    1. Duncan
    2. Green
    3. Leonard
    4. Splitter
    5. Ginobili
    6. Joseph
    ...
    12. Baynes
    ...
    14.


    RPM by Position

    PG: Joseph (17th) / Mills (31st) / (89th)
    SG: Ginobili (6th) / Green (7th)
    SF: Leonard (2nd) / Beli (66th)
    PF: Duncan (4th) / Diaw (56th)
    C: Splitter (14th) / Baynes (32nd)

    Our starting lineup isn't even in the top 10 of our 5 man combinations in point differential and is being outshot from 3 by over 10% by opponents.
    Keep in mind these stats aren't even being that heavily skewed by the hor last 4 games
    Just the facts, no editorializing
    But I'm sure all of these different stats are flawed and I have an agenda

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    baynes little offense doesn't make up for terrible D tbh...

    Just Poop being Poop tbh..

    Without the right assistant he doesn't know what rotation to use plus he plays favoritism,

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    That re Perry Mason will probably enter this thread and spend two paragraphs ing about how advanced metrics in basketball are unreliable while making some kind of stupid ass analogy to Obamacare. Yeah, he's a ing moron.

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    Pop has to change the starting line-up, they always get the team in a whole and it's just a downhill battle from there. The most obvious change is to put Boris for Baynes. Start from there and see what happens.

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    That re Perry Mason will probably enter this thread and spend two paragraphs ing about how advanced metrics in basketball are unreliable while making some kind of stupid ass analogy to Obamacare. Yeah, he's a ing moron.
    he is in your ing head tho

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    That re Perry Mason will probably enter this thread and spend two paragraphs ing about how advanced metrics in basketball are unreliable while making some kind of stupid ass analogy to Obamacare. Yeah, he's a ing moron.
    that post on the other thread gave me good laughs

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    Pop has to change the starting line-up, they always get the team in a whole and it's just a downhill battle from there. The most obvious change is to put Boris for Baynes. Start from there and see what happens.
    Baynes is obvious. He's never been anything more than a 4th big. Parker's the real issue in the starting lineup though. Numbes don't lie. He's been cancerous this season. Cojo's not that great but he at least TRIES to make an effort on the court. It's worth trying him out with the starters for a game or two. TP doesn't deserve any playing time right now.

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    Pop just doesn't seem to care, tbh, he's content with 5 and he's staying loyal to his man..

    Joseph either needs to start for Parker, or shouldn't be in the rotation, he's a poor fit with Ginobili..ideally, he would start, since he's literally a better player than Parker at this point, but that will never occur..

    Having Diaw in the starting lineup seems like the next logical step, maybe it will get him going..

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    Baynes is obvious. He's never been anything more than a 4th big. Parker's the real issue in the starting lineup though. Numbes don't lie. He's been cancerous this season. Cojo's not that great but he at least TRIES to make an effort on the court. It's worth trying him out with the starters for a game or two. TP doesn't deserve any playing time right now.

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    Baynes is obvious. He's never been anything more than a 4th big. Parker's the real issue in the starting lineup though. Numbes don't lie. He's been cancerous this season. Cojo's not that great but he at least TRIES to make an effort on the court. It's worth trying him out with the starters for a game or two. TP doesn't deserve any playing time right now.
    The problem with benching Tony is that if you do that you lose him for ever. I would rather give him some more games to prove he can regain his form.

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    The problem with benching Tony is that if you do that you lose him for ever. I would rather give him some more games to prove he can regain his form.
    I dunno. It's dangerous to keep putting our hopes in Tony with GOATbrook and the Thunder catching up to us in the standings. Last thing we need is to play GS in the first round.

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    The problem with benching Tony is that if you do that you lose him for ever. I would rather give him some more games to prove he can regain his form.
    The team is more important than his ego. If pop values enrique's feelings over team morale and wins, then this team is already done.

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    Honestly I've give Mills the starting nod right now. Maybe it would break him out of his funk and give Parker a reprieve from the pressure he must be putting on himself to get better every night. I don't think Manu starting is a good idea though. We need Green and Leonard on the wings for the defense.

    Not sure who to start alongside Duncan. They've all looked terrible this year.

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    Even though Joseph and Mills are better than Tony now, neither of them is getting anything done in the playoffs as a starter

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    it, start KA at point.

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    Pop should bench Parker in the very least to try to light a fire under him. Don't rest him, and don't play him big minutes. Have him go out there and have to prove himself if he wants to be on the court during crunch time. If it breaks him, it just does. He needs to get hungry again.

    ... Yes, I know that last part is a softball.

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    Jesus christ almighty. The truthbomb to word ratio in the OP is ridiculous.

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    Not much you can do about it tbh. Pop already showed with RJ that if a player gets a big deal he'll ride with that guy win or lose. Starting Baynes over Tiago is the real head scratcher tbh, as Tiago will almost certainly have to start and play well in any playoff matchup. Baynes' size is needed terribly in the second unit on the boards as lineups with Boris and Tiago have been destroyed on the defensive glass.

    The lineups lately have been Jacque Vaugh-esque, and if any young coach in the league were doing this in front of a bigger market they'd be getting blasted. It's gotten to the point where I think Pop may be handicapping the team in an effort to manufacture adversity and unleash the beast later. Either that or he's truly drunk on the sidelines and the assistants are a bunch of yes-men.

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    Honestly I think our best bet would be to start Manu at PG and have Green cover opposing PGs on D. That's never going to happen in a million years and is still probably more likely than starting Cojo in big games.

    best we can hope is to get under 24mpg in the playoffs or for a fake hamstring injury to save face.

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    At the very least, pop needs to change up the lineup that starts the second half. The spurs are consistently getting killed in the third quarter.

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    if I know? Pop just being Pop and trying to make work at times when it is not working. He is very stubborn and full of himself.
    At the very least, pop needs to change up the lineup that starts the second half. The spurs are consistently getting killed in the third quarter.
    They lose the game in the third most of the time, agreed.

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    That re Perry Mason will probably enter this thread and spend two paragraphs ing about how advanced metrics in basketball are unreliable while making some kind of stupid ass analogy to Obamacare. Yeah, he's a ing moron.
    No but I will. Anyone who solely uses stats to try and analyze something with infinite variables like a game of basketball is a ing re .
    The fundamental aspect of statistics is to make sense of uncertainty, which is impossible to do at all times.
    Reading your ing lame takes on statistics only clarifies that no one on here has taken a stats class, let alone hold a degree in the discipline.
    I don't need stats to prove to you that splitter is or parker is a bumbling turd.
    But what the just say something about plus minus to prove or disprove me. Democrats ruin society

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    I have a degree in stats..


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    I have a degree in spam..


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