There have been 7 teams in NBA history..

[Silver&Black]

For the 10,000th time OP....we get it. You wish doom and gloom on TP...and that's okay. Just don't see the need to start another TP sucks thread. We all know...we all watch the games. Dude is hot garbage...

Just start an official Enrique Porker sucks thread....no need to start a thread every time you see another stat that says he is awful. Again, we all ing know.

[barbacoataco]

This useless thread at least had one redeeming value. It shows just how useless advanced basketball stats are.

[Mr Bones]

dabom incensed because he got his ass handed to him in that thread yesterday. hee hee

hee hee

hee hee

[dabom]

This useless thread at least had one redeeming value. It shows just how useless advanced basketball stats are.

RC would call you a ing clown. SRS.

[Mr Bones]

Playoffs or regular season stats? If you say RS you are a ing re .

Look at the chart, dummy. It's not my chart. It's what you call "evidence," and it shows that Parker is a better defender than Bowen.

these player fans and their revisionist history, tbh.
Bowen wasn't a good defender-- these advanced stats prove it

[dabom]

Look at the chart, dummy. It's not my chart. It's what you call "evidence," and it shows that Parker is a better defender than Bowen.

these player fans and their revisionist history, tbh.
Bowen wasn't a good defender-- these advanced stats prove it

You didn't answer me got.

[BatManu20]

Tony also closed out Game 5 for us when we need him most. (just trying to balance the score a bit)

[ChumpDumper]

ing gots only post catpics when truth bombs go off.

Some fluctuation is alright between ORTG and DRTG between players. According to these stats. Tony parker was a ing cancer and no amount of debate is needed to understand he ing sucked . You got that got?

Playoffs or regular season stats? If you say RS you are a ing re .

RC would call you a ing clown. SRS.

You didn't answer me got.

[dabom]

[Mr Bones]

[Leetonidas]

[Johnny RIngo]

According to these stats Parker, Udrih, & Barry were better defenders than Bowen. In fact, according to this chart, Bruce was the worst defender on the team.
Is that accurate in your opinion?

Are you dense? Use a little reading comprehension, you moron.

That chart was posted in response to a poster that insisted the 2005 Spurs were ONLY a defensive team. He claimed the stats held a bias against "offensive players" like Parker. I refuted his point by posting data from a series where the Spurs didn't really play much defense and relied on their offense to beat their opponent. Against the Suns, nobody on the team was putting much of an effort on D(and the chart reflects that). We beat Phoenix at their own game - with better offense. The chart is supposed to emphasize that even in a series where defense wasn't a factor, Parker performed badly. The Phoenix series was a perfect opportunity for an offensive guard to thrive. Parker, instead, had the 2nd worst efficiency on the team(after Udrih) and the 2nd worst ORtg(after Udrih). Parker sucked, like usual.

[ChumpDumper]

Are you dense? Use a little reading comprehension, you moron.

That chart was posted in response to a poster that insisted the 2005 Spurs were ONLY a defensive team. He claimed the stats held a bias against "offensive players" like Parker. I refuted his point by posting data from a series where the Spurs didn't really play much defense and relied on their offense to beat their opponent. Against the Suns, nobody on the team was putting much of an effort on D(and the chart reflects that). We beat Phoenix at their own game - with better offense. The chart is supposed to emphasize that even in a series where defense wasn't a factor, Parker performed badly. The Phoenix series was a perfect opportunity for an offensive guard to thrive. Parker, instead, had the 2nd worst efficiency on the team(after Udrih) and the 2nd worst ORtg(after Udrih). Parker sucked, like usual.

If 20 ppg on 46% shooting sucks, I'll take it.

[Mr Bones]

Are you dense? Use a little reading comprehension
.

You are using a chart as evidence of something you think is true. I'm just wondering why this chart also says that Bowen is the worst defender on the team. Or is it accurate in every respect except for rating Bowen's effectiveness as a defender?

[Johnny RIngo]

If 20 ppg on 46% shooting sucks, I'll take it.

20 ppg on .490 TS% is NOT efficient. Parker averaged more FGA per game than either of Duncan and Manu and scored significantly less than either one.

[ChumpDumper]

If 20 ppg on 46% shooting sucks, I'll take it.

[Mr Bones]

I don't remember... did the Spurs lose this series?

[dabom]

I don't remember... did the Spurs lose this series?

Did the spurs have prime duncan and manu?

[Mr Bones]

Did the spurs have prime duncan and manu?

Were they champs?

[Mr Bones]

I get the feeling you wish the Spurs had no rings after 1999 so you could blame it all on Parker.

[dabom]

Were they champs?

Prime Duncan and Manu will do that for your career.

[Johnny RIngo]

You are using a chart as evidence of something you think is true. I'm just wondering why this chart also says that Bowen is the worst defender on the team. Or is it accurate in every respect except for rating Bowen's effectiveness as a defender?

That chart is data from the 2005 Conference Finals against the Suns. Because you seem to have problems with reading comprehension, I'll repeat. Nobody was putting a concerted effort on defense in the Suns series - Bowen included. Defensive numbers were irrelevant there. Nash averaged 23/10 on 57 TS%. Amare averaged 37/10 on 61 TS%. Suns as a whole scored 114.0 points per 100 possessions(no different than their season numbers). Spurs beat them with better offense so the only pertinent data one can take from that chart is the offensive numbers.

[K...]

I like that Johnny here has an inside source about how hard the team tried to play defense in a certain series. We need these kinds of posters who don't make things up out of their ass to fit the agenda.

[K...]

Haha, these stats are irrelevant because I have an opinion

[ChumpDumper]

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