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    The warriors look great but I've been watching bball long enough to know that playoff basketball is different. Maybe they roll through and win the championship,

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    Is this small ball lineup not good enough?
    Parker
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    Is Green not good enough if not on a hot roll from shooting 3s?
    Are Tony/Manu too old to compete on defensive end?
    Is Duncan too much a liability in pick n roll defense vs this team?
    Is an motivated,slim down,effective Diaw the missing piece?
    Some Spurs writers mentioned letting Diaw/mills go for younger,athletic,hungrier(not literally)players.
    Manu is a problem with significant big role, can't trust him, should be only jokker of the bench at best, RC screw it up this time not bringing addition to our lineup...

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    Well .

    End of discussion.
    There are no "what if's" on sports boards...
    I don't think you get it. I was making a joke based on semantics. They'll never play, so they CAN neither beat nor be defeated by them. It's a different question as to whether or not they COULD.

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    The Spurs can negate Green by posting him up. 2014 Diaw was awesome in that regard. The only issue is that the Spurs would get nothing out of Parker.

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    If the Spurs play like they did during the 2014 finals, nobody will beat them.

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    lol. spurs would sweep the dubs. overrated trash. id be surprised if they get past the 2nd round.

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    The 2014 Spurs beat everybody.

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    Serious, were the 2014 Spurs GOAT championship team?

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    i dont get how the jumpshooters thing falls into the equation. defense wins championships and they have an elite defense. if you're just going to use the jumpshooter thing to cancel out the defense, then why bring up the "defense wins championships" thing up in the first place? is there caveat to the defense wins championships thing? like "defense wins championships, unless your best offesnive players are jumpshooters. then defense does not win championships." besides, the Suns achilles heel was their defense. if they had an elite defense, history would be different. if you liken the warriors offense to the suns and also realize they play terrific defense, not sure how you can just write them off

    in any event, the warriors lead the NBA in assists per game, something the spurs had taken pride in for the last two seasons. out of their league leading 27.1 assists per game, 7.8 come from curry and 3.0 come from Klay.
    It's quite simple; they aren't the only team with good defense. Good defense does win championships, so teams that can adapt to the fact that the Warriors are a jumpshooting team will adapt to it, and then the Warriors will have to attack the rim. They don't really have a post game, not much of one anyhow.

    I didn't liken their offense to the Suns. I likened the team to the Suns in that they blow through the regular season but are a one trick pony. Is Klay going to carry them to the finish line when Curry gets shut down? Can he? That's the question. Spurs have faced teams with that one unstoppable guy countless times, and countless times they've either shut the rest of the team out and made that one guy beat them, or they've shut that one guy down and made the rest of the team work.

    You can have games where you can't miss, but you're not going to have a series like that.

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    Serious Question

    Watched a lot of their games this year,including entire 1st half tonight,thrashing another opponent.This team is playing at all time level.Mark Jackson had basically same team.I don't think this years Spurs team can hang with them.

    Are 2015 Warriors better team than last years Spurs? Especially they win the le.
    hahahahaha

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    The lockout year affects the perception of those Spurs, tbh..
    Wasn't 2011-2012 also a lockout season? Does that cancel Lebron's 1st ring? Does it mean the Thunder never made it to the Finals? Also, wasn't Fisher the union president during the lockout in 2009, PG for the same guy who lodged the asterisk?

    There's some real low rent going on with that whole thing. If any other team wins that year, especially LAL, no one says anything. No other coach would have the hatred and guile to make such a comment regarding a championship where your team had the same number of games the other team had, and you had the most dominant big man of all time who couldn't get into shape before 40 games went by.

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    DMC who do you think should be considered favored to win it all as of now?

    of course, any injury could come and derail anybody, but as of right now

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    DMC who do you think should be considered favored to win it all as of now?

    of course, any injury could come and derail anybody, but as of right now
    Spurs right now. I don't see how they are any different than they were last season. I don't see how any teams have improved that much over last season where a 7 game series is concerned. Of course there are sometimes those teams that find a way, but neither Atlanta nor GS have historically shown they can, and Cleveland has the firepower but there's an iden y crisis there. They had a monster game and barely beat the Spurs.

    Kyrie is a beast, he can flat out handle the ball and has moves that rival AI, but he's also a chucker, and a lot of those shots he hit were horrible shots to take in the first place. Lebron seems to be influenced to chuck when Kyrie is doing it, so that could be their downfall. Mostly though they need a true star to rise during this season's playoffs; Thompson or one of the guys needs to really do something crazy to pull attention from the obvious. Love hasn't been involved, he seems to be out of his element with athletic players who can handle the rock and shoot as well. He's best when he can steal stats from his own team in meaningless games.

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    Spurs right now. I don't see how they are any different than they were last season. I don't see how any teams have improved that much over last season where a 7 game series is concerned. Of course there are sometimes those teams that find a way, but neither Atlanta nor GS have historically shown they can, and Cleveland has the firepower but there's an iden y crisis there. They had a monster game and barely beat the Spurs.
    i agree, though i'm sure a degree of bias plays into that. i do think GSW is better than you give credit for. they play pretty differently than they had under the preacher's coaching

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    i agree, though i'm sure a degree of bias plays into that. i do think GSW is better than you give credit for. they play pretty differently than they had under the preacher's coaching
    You don't seem to put much thought into it, the speed of your response indicates you haven't considered it. I make one edit and you've already responded.

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    You don't seem to put much thought into it, the speed of your response indicates you haven't considered it. I make one edit and you've already responded.
    i've thought about it over the course of the season, not in the time between our posts

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    I've thought about it over the course of the season, not in the time between our posts
    So then write your manifesto and let it be. Why do you care what anyone else thinks?

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    I hope we see OKC vs Warriors. It would be hilarious to see either go one and done.

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    So then write your manifesto and let it be. Why do you care what anyone else thinks?
    same reason as everybody else. it's why we're on a forum and not writing ing diaries

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    same reason as everybody else. it's why we're on a forum and not writing ing diaries
    But you don't even give the response a thought before you blurt out something else. Ever think about reading the response before hitting the "Reply with Quote" button or do you just read it as you're responding?

    You end up writing your manifesto anyhow, with no thought to where the conversation has gone prior.

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    Definitely. I think the 2015 spurs can too.

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    Wasn't 2011-2012 also a lockout season? Does that cancel Lebron's 1st ring? Does it mean the Thunder never made it to the Finals? Also, wasn't Fisher the union president during the lockout in 2009, PG for the same guy who lodged the asterisk?

    There's some real low rent going on with that whole thing. If any other team wins that year, especially LAL, no one says anything. No other coach would have the hatred and guile to make such a comment regarding a championship where your team had the same number of games the other team had, and you had the most dominant big man of all time who couldn't get into shape before 40 games went by.
    I didn't say it cancelled the Spurs' le, it just diminishes the significance of the team's dominance, tbh..

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    Spurs right now. I don't see how they are any different than they were last season. I don't see how any teams have improved that much over last season where a 7 game series is concerned. Of course there are sometimes those teams that find a way, but neither Atlanta nor GS have historically shown they can, and Cleveland has the firepower but there's an iden y crisis there. They had a monster game and barely beat the Spurs.

    Kyrie is a beast, he can flat out handle the ball and has moves that rival AI, but he's also a chucker, and a lot of those shots he hit were horrible shots to take in the first place. Lebron seems to be influenced to chuck when Kyrie is doing it, so that could be their downfall. Mostly though they need a true star to rise during this season's playoffs; Thompson or one of the guys needs to really do something crazy to pull attention from the obvious. Love hasn't been involved, he seems to be out of his element with athletic players who can handle the rock and shoot as well. He's best when he can steal stats from his own team in meaningless games.
    They aren't on last years Spurs playoff level yet by any means, but then again they were not at this point last year either. They did win 62 games though, they won't sniff that this year. If the Spurs get it rolling they can go on a good run, just some fine tuning and they have a shot.

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    When the 2015 Warriors prove they're an effective playoff team, I'll be more interested in this discussion. Their defense is vastly improved, and they're healthy, but are they, when it comes down to it, more than a jump shooting team? Time will tell.

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