Official 2015 Oakland Raiders/Derek Carr Domination Thread

[Avante]

you guys can start a new thread if you want. this is a raiders thread

Shut the up!

[Sean Cagney]

you guys can start a new thread if you want. this is a raiders thread

There is nothing to talk about when it comes to the raiders man.. There is Raiders mentioned in here though from Branch etc.

Sorry to high jack your thread to talk football man, relax and I will post most of the other in the other thread for Avante. I thought we were in there already tbh.

You have no idea how many you just pissed off, ha!!!!!!!!

Hutson set that record in 1942, he was amazing, you can't talk great receivers and not start with Don Hutson, he was a 9.8 guy at a time when the WR was 9.4.

Mark Clayton was tenacious and like Brooks you forgot all about his size. It did help having Mark Duper on the other side, he was the real speedster, Clayton the better hands, route runner. Marino had it made...ha~~~

Some idiot tried to say if Marino had help one time in a thread somewhere and I let him have it for that, said those guys catching the ball were pretty damn good as well in case you did not do your research. Shula said he would not have been Marino without them and they would not have been the Marks brothers without him, made sense to me. Duper was a track star as well, remember that on the back of his rookie card telling facts about him. He was also very small.

I also said to the guy after I mentioned them two that he also later on had Keith Jackson, Irving Fryar, Mark Ingram, Mcduffie and Tony Martin so Marino was never hurting in the receiver dept in his caeer AT ALL. He had the receivers to help him set those records.

BTW I read about Hudson, beast.

[Avante]

There is nothing to talk about when it comes to the raiders man.. There is Raiders mentioned in here though from Branch etc.

Sorry to high jack your thread to talk football man, relax and I will post most of the other in the other thread for Avante. I thought we were in there already tbh.
Some idiot tried to say if Marino had help one time in a thread somewhere and I let him have it for that, said those guys catching the ball were pretty damn good as well in case you did not do your research. Shula said he would not have been Marino without them and they would not have been the Marks brothers without him, made sense to me. Duper was a track star as well, remember that on the back of his rookie card telling facts about him. He was also very small.

I also said to the guy after I mentioned them two that he also later on had Keith Jackson, Irving Fryar, Mark Ingram, Mcduffie and Tony Martin so Marino was never hurting in the receiver dept in his caeer AT ALL. He had the receivers to help him set those records.

BTW I read about Hudson, beast.

Miami always had a bunch of cats who could catch the ball, Paul Warfield, Nat Moore, Tony Nathan and all those you mentioned. Duper was on an NCAA winning 4x1 team at tiny NWLA, on that team were future NFLers Joe Delaney and Victor Oatis, Duper the star with a 9.4.

I am a bit surprised the Dolphins never won a SB with those guys. Talking the Marino era.

[spurraider21]

[Pelicans78]

TR had skills coming out. He just got too big like Ingram did. Once Ingram lost weight, he became much quicker and much more effective. TR needs to lose more weight and get in better condition. He's got skills. He's just underachieving.

[Sean Cagney]

TR had skills coming out. He just got too big like Ingram did. Once Ingram lost weight, he became much quicker and much more effective. TR needs to lose more weight and get in better condition. He's got skills. He's just underachieving.

I can agree there, the talent is there but is the work ethic and mind set? Dude will have to prove himself this year in Oakland to resurrect his career. Ingram is a good example though, he is a very good RB now that he is getting the carries in NO he deserves in which he did not get earlier on his career.

[spurraider21]

supposedly the guaranteed money is super low, so he can be cut in camp if he's not looking good. i would just draft a late round rb with good size/speed... same way we got murray

[Sean Cagney]

supposedly the guaranteed money is super low, so he can be cut in camp if he's not looking good. i would just draft a late round rb with good size/speed... same way we got murray

I am not up on this draft too much but is this one deep in RB's? I know it is deep in WR but how about the RB's?

[spurraider21]

I am not up on this draft too much but is this one deep in RB's? I know it is deep in WR but how about the RB's?

no clue at all, haven't looked into late round guys. just take a guy from a small school with good measurables

[Aztecfan03]

I have heard it is deep in rb's but no sure how deep.

[spurraider21]

RB's are dime a dozen, its not a position i'd waste time worrying over

[Avante]

After watching what Seattle does and the sudden success Dallas had last seaon, the RB poisition is starting to get a little more respect. We will see more teams running the ball.

The thing about running backs is a great one might average 4.4 a carry, an average one 4.0. So we don't see the huge difference there like we do at other positions. Any back who can make it to an NFL team can run the ball. Only a few are real stand outs like a Barry Sanders. And we do get a lot of backs out of RinkyDinkey State. Walter Payton the perfect example of that, coming out of Jackson State. The first 1000 yard rusher for the Raiders was out of Prairie View, Clem Daneils, well actually he was cornerback they converted.

[spurraider21]

P marqutte king, WR's andre holmes and rod streater are all signing their RFA tenders... quoted as saying they want to hit the ground running at OTA's instead of waiting for a deal. probably has more to do with a lack of market, but good to hear nonetheless. King is one of the better punters in the league, and holmes/streater are roster worthy WR's. streater can be an average WR2... Holmes a solid WR 3/4, but we still need to grab a WR in round 1 or 2 of the draft.

Crabtree is also visiting the raiders, a move i'm not entirely thrilled with. still remember his reaction at the draft after the raiders took DHB over him. granted, it was a dumb move to draft DHB, but its still a y reaction from a guy who hasn't played a down. had a pretty bad year coming off injury.

crabtree had a really strong 2012, but got hurt in 2013 and was pretty bad in 2014. lost whatever explosion he had, plus was among the NFL's leaders in drops and drops %, supposedly his biggest strength. our receiving core sucks, but i don't see how he's any better than andre holmes or rod streater at this point

[spurraider21]

...^ and of course, the raiders end up signing Crabtree, smh

[Spur-Addict]

spurraider21. No thoughts on Oakland getting involved in the race for A.P.?

[spurraider21]

spurraider21. No thoughts on Oakland getting involved in the race for A.P.?

not buying it

then again reggie traded for Matt Slob and Matt Flynn in consecutive offseasons so who knows...

[spurraider21]

we had the toughest schedule in the league last year. not exactly a great one this year, either, but certainly not as brutal



browns, bears, jets, vikes, ans are non-division games that seem winnable at this point. packers/lions/steelers/bengals/ravens all seem hopeless. if the chargers dump rivers, it could change a lot of things... chiefs are still mediocre as well.

if Carr shows some progress and we don't completely blow the draft, 6-7 wins shouldn't be out of reach

[Silver&Black]

Is this the year the Raiders can get to 6-7 wins?

Tough stretch to end the season. Probably lose the last 4 games....

[spurraider21]

Is this the year the Raiders can get to 6-7 wins?

Tough stretch to end the season. Probably lose the last 4 games....

the raiders tend to play the chargers tough... wouldn't be surprised if we beat them at home. and if rivers gets traded, all bets are off

[Silver&Black]

the raiders tend to play the chargers tough... wouldn't be surprised if we beat them at home. and if rivers gets traded, all bets are off

I'm counting that game as Rivers will be the QB. If Rivers isn't there (say that Mariota trade goes down), of course, that changes everything in that division.

Make a prediction.....

I'm going with a slight improvement for the Bucs. They will go from 2-14 to 3-13 this year.

[spurraider21]

I'm counting that game as Rivers will be the QB. If Rivers isn't there (say that Mariota trade goes down), of course, that changes everything in that division.

Make a prediction.....

I'm going with a slight improvement for the Bucs. They will go from 2-14 to 3-13 this year.

you guys have the fortune of being in the worst division in the league... also get to play the ans/Jags/Redskins/Bears... solid schedule

[Silver&Black]

you guys have the fortune of being in the worst division in the league... also get to play the ans/Jags/Redskins/Bears... solid schedule

Went 0-6 in said worst division in the league last year....those teams just have our number. I mean for God's sake....we lost to Based Anderson twice last year. I'm counting the Jags and Redskins as two of our wins. And we will sneak up somebody else because they will underestimate us....like the Steelers last year.

[spurraider21]

Amari Cooper - Derek Carr

[spurraider21]

[Mugen]

I wanted Leonard Williams tbh.