Vangundy out of his mind!

[hater]

^ 06 mavs, 11 spurs, actually regular season beasts getting shat on in the playoffs is fairly common

[hater]

Oh and van Gundy was on some kind of coke last night. Talking weird s

[FkLA]

^ 06 mavs, 11 spurs, actually regular season beasts getting shat on in the playoffs is fairly common

Think you mean the '07 Chokericks who pulled off the chokejob of the century. Their choke in '06 in the Finals was pretty good too. '11 Spurs were pretenders...their defensive stats weren't le worthy.

[apalisoc_9]

Think you mean the '07 Chokericks who pulled off the chokejob of the century. Their choke in '06 in the Finals was pretty good too. '11 Spurs were pretenders...their defensive stats weren't le worthy.

yeah the 2011 spurs D was Gimmicky and so was their offense...The only complaint i have for that season was Tiago not playing...He legit would made them a real contender.

But still, that team was filled with terrible wing players.

[TampaDude]

'11 Spurs were pretenders...their defensive stats weren't le worthy.

Yeah, the 2011 Spurs were basically the Suns in silver and black.

[Killakobe81]

He sucks. has for a while. Spur fan didnt mind so much before. He tries way to hard to be funny. he does have a smart b-ball mind. But he has so many biases especially for the Rockets ...like OP said he ALWAYS picks the rockets.

[RD2191]

The ovwerwhelming statistic is that the champion comes from the first two seeds. It just makes sense. They are the teams that are most consistent. If Spurs win it this year, it would be a once in an era thing. Epic, worthy of song and poems.

The Spurs were decimated with injuries this year. No doubt in my mind the Spurs would be at least the 2 seed if they were healthy all season.

[apalisoc_9]

The Spurs were decimated with injuries this year. No doubt in my mind the Spurs would be at least the 2 seed if they were healthy all season.

This is true though.

[FromWayDowntown]

The Spurs were decimated with injuries this year. No doubt in my mind the Spurs would be at least the 2 seed if they were healthy all season.

If the Spurs and the Thunder had each been whole all year, I don't think that changes much about the Warriors' play and record. All things being equal, if SA and OKC are healthy all year, I still think the top 2 seeds in the West would be GST and OKC, mostly because Pop likely wouldn't have pushed to get into one of those spots.

With that, I don't think what JVG suggests is unlikely. The Warriors have been running away with the West for most of the season and that's because they've been the best offensive AND defensive team in the league (at least by some measures) for most of the season.

One would expect a team like that -- particularly a team that has sustained its dominance through it's own injury problems and is practically unbeatable at home -- to make a fairly easy run to the Finals. In fact, if you changed the team names but kept all the numbers as they are and flipped the Spurs and Warriors, do you think anyone would doubt that the "Spurs" would blow through the playoffs? Do you think anyone would really give the "Warriors" a legitimate chance of beating that team?

People get too caught up in the past with some of these teams. A championship pedigree helps in the playoffs, but it won't often put an inferior team over a superior one. Besides, the Warriors aren't exactly a team without playoff experience at this point. They stood strong as an underdog against the Spurs in 2013; with some better coaching choices, they might well have pushed that series to 7 games (or even won the damned thing). They are now a much deeper and much better coached team that has been through some playoff battles and expects to win.

They're going to be a for anyone to beat.

[RD2191]

If the Spurs and the Thunder had each been whole all year, I don't think that changes much about the Warriors' play and record. All things being equal, if SA and OKC are healthy all year, I still think the top 2 seeds in the West would be GST and OKC, mostly because Pop likely wouldn't have pushed to get into one of those spots.

With that, I don't think what JVG suggests is unlikely. The Warriors have been running away with the West for most of the season and that's because they've been the best offensive AND defensive team in the league (at least by some measures) for most of the season.

One would expect a team like that -- particularly a team that has sustained its dominance through it's own injury problems and is practically unbeatable at home -- to make a fairly easy run to the Finals. In fact, if you changed the team names but kept all the numbers as they are and flipped the Spurs and Warriors, do you think anyone would doubt that the "Spurs" would blow through the playoffs? Do you think anyone would really give the "Warriors" a legitimate chance of beating that team?

People get too caught up in the past with some of these teams. A championship pedigree helps in the playoffs, but it won't often put an inferior team over a superior one. Besides, the Warriors aren't exactly a team without playoff experience at this point. They stood strong as an underdog against the Spurs in 2013; with some better coaching choices, they might well have pushed that series to 7 games (or even won the damned thing). They are now a much deeper and much better coached team that has been through some playoff battles and expects to win.

They're going to be a for anyone to beat.

The Spurs destroyed LeBron, Wade, and Bosh. That's 2 superstars and a perennial all star. While GS plays great on both sides of the ball I just don't see them beating a healthy Spurs team playing at their highest level.

[RD2191]

Besides if GS wants to play small we can throw Diaw at Green. A motivated Diaw can beast when he wants.

[Bartleby]

Oh and van Gundy was on some kind of coke last night. Talking weird s

I thought the same thing. He is usually pretty outspoken and opinionated, but last night he took it to another level. Probably either on coke or off his meds.

[jsandiego]

Just like in 2013, we are a Curry ankle away from making the Finals.

[FromWayDowntown]

The Spurs destroyed LeBron, Wade, and Bosh. That's 2 superstars and a perennial all star. While GS plays great on both sides of the ball I just don't see them beating a healthy Spurs team playing at their highest level.

Destroyed them the 2nd time.

[still.focused]

He's probably correct, unfortunately..

^This
They have the best record in the league
Best offense in the league
One of the top defenses in the league
The 2015 MVP
Are well coached and playing excellent ball
But because they play in the west with this years underachieving Spurs team everyone here is offended
Why cant the Dubs just be that good?
And if theyre not that good whos a threat to them?

[still.focused]

The Spurs destroyed LeBron, Wade, and Bosh. That's 2 superstars and a perennial all star. While GS plays great on both sides of the ball I just don't see them beating a healthy Spurs team playing at their highest level.

Uh...where is this healthy Spurs team playing at their highest level?
And when are we expect them to start playing?

[mexicanjunior]

Nothing wrong with what Van Gundy said...Warriors not winning the West would be a shocker.

[still.focused]

^ 06 mavs, 11 spurs, actually regular season beasts getting shat on in the playoffs is fairly common

I see youve cleverly avoided the OKC, San An & Miami Finals teams didnt suppport your argument
Good job

[cjw]

Spurs are fifth in point differential and finally above +5.0 after last night. Only Clippers (+6.0) and Warriors (+10.7!) are higher in the west, with Atlanta and Cleveland barely ahead at +5.3 / +5.1 despite an easier schedule.

7th in offensive efficiency and 4th in defensive efficiency, with only GS, ATL and POR in the top 10 in both and Chicago on the edge looking in.

Makings of a le contender, but scary to think about how much Golden State has outplayed everyone else this year (I heard somewhere that Curry has significant DNPs in the fourth quarter given how much they're blowing teams out). Remains to be seen if game translates to the postseason seamlessly but you have to be going into that series aiming to win 2 out of 4 on the road, as holding serve at home will be brutally difficult. I also think they're better positioned to withstand and injury to anyone but Curry than other teams are to their key cogs. Too bad Kerr's coaching them now.

[weebo]

If the Spurs and the Thunder had each been whole all year, I don't think that changes much about the Warriors' play and record. All things being equal, if SA and OKC are healthy all year, I still think the top 2 seeds in the West would be GST and OKC, mostly because Pop likely wouldn't have pushed to get into one of those spots.

With that, I don't think what JVG suggests is unlikely. The Warriors have been running away with the West for most of the season and that's because they've been the best offensive AND defensive team in the league (at least by some measures) for most of the season.

One would expect a team like that -- particularly a team that has sustained its dominance through it's own injury problems and is practically unbeatable at home -- to make a fairly easy run to the Finals. In fact, if you changed the team names but kept all the numbers as they are and flipped the Spurs and Warriors, do you think anyone would doubt that the "Spurs" would blow through the playoffs? Do you think anyone would really give the "Warriors" a legitimate chance of beating that team?

People get too caught up in the past with some of these teams. A championship pedigree helps in the playoffs, but it won't often put an inferior team over a superior one. Besides, the Warriors aren't exactly a team without playoff experience at this point. They stood strong as an underdog against the Spurs in 2013; with some better coaching choices, they might well have pushed that series to 7 games (or even won the damned thing). They are now a much deeper and much better coached team that has been through some playoff battles and expects to win.

They're going to be a for anyone to beat.

Van Gundy can make all the outlandish opinions he wants. Doesn't mean his right. Anyone can see that the warriors will be tough (you aren't a number 1 seed by accident), but to say the warriors won't be challenged is crazy. We all know by now the PO's are about match ups and what team gets hot at the right time. Are the warriors favorites to come out the west? Simple logic tells you yes, but there is more to it than RS wins and losses, offensive and defensive efficiency, etc...In the PO's teams will have time to prepare, to exploit your weaknesses, to take away your strengths and to make game to game adjustments. By saying the warriors will run through the west on their way to the Finals is like saying a big and tough defensive minded team like the grizzlies have no shot, or a Rick Carlise team can't beat them, or that the defending champs have won't give them a challenge. It's crazy.

[Horse]

Besides if GS wants to play small we can throw Diaw at Green. A motivated Diaw can beast when he wants.

I almost felt bad for the way he destroyed mcgary last night.

[RD2191]

[RD2191]

Parker dropped 28 that game also. Need that Parker back.

[Old School 44]

They do the same thing with Bill Simmons, tbh..he loves the Spurs, but whenever he says a single negative thing about them, you get threads like this one..

Realistically, the Warriors are huge favorites to win the West..it would be shocking if they don't win it, one of the biggest chokejobs of all-time IMO..

No doubt they should be favored, but "biggest choke jobs of all-time", hardly. Running the Western Conference gauntlet from any seed is going to be a challenge.

[ViceCity86]

He initially said no one in the West can win more than 1 game in a playoff series vs Warriors.He backtracked last night,but deep down I think he truly believes that.