It could, but I honestly don't see the two sides having much trouble reaching an agreement. If the Spurs were to hardball him, he could always sign the least team friendly offer sheet possible. Some team will accommodate him.
He's going to get the five year max. No reason not to give it to him with the cap going up like it is and having Splitter cheap. Even Parker's $12.5/yr looks better with the cap going up as much as it is.
One of the top defenders in the league who is putting up 19/7 on over 52% from the field all but guarantee that.
I do too, I think 4 years + PO will work for both sides' interests, and he'll eventually get to have his larger payday down the road too.
I agree. 4 plus a PO or 3 plus a PO will get it done.
I'm hoping Danny resigns and Manu comes back for 1 more year. Not sure what we do with Marco...
Bid him arrivederci.
I'd welcome him back at the right price. Depends on who else we can get instead.
If we're imagining a scenario where Tim, Manu, and Danny all return, then using the MLE on an upgrade for the 4th wing would be one way to go.
I mean, the max QO is for the most he could possibly get. So I think he'd be hard pressed to call it a low-ball offer. You can't really offer incentives on a max deal, anyway. Though 2016 will be interesting, because it will be the first year in a long time that the max starts growing faster than 7.5 percent. So a Kawhi will actually be making less than max money for the whole deal, which means that incentives and trade kickers will actually matter.
In any event, if the Spurs and Kawhi decide the part ways, the Spurs can always retract the mQO and let Kawhi sign whatever deal he wants. But I'm not going to pretend that Kawhi would be wronged if the Spurs offer him a full max deal and he wants a shorter one.
I don't see it as a great way to do it, seeing as Anderson and LJC will be in the fold (along with maybe a Deshaun Thomas). I think the team may want to consider a youngish big, seeing as Tim probably wouldn't play more than a year or two more.
I do think that if the Spurs repeat this season, then the band minus Williams and Ayres will be brought back. Even someone like Cory, who would be gone if off-season began today, would get reupped.
It's also a rare time because they already know a giant cap increase is coming in a couple of seasons for reasons outside of a negotiation of a new CBA. It wouldn't be a reach to say that if he signed for the max over 3+ years, he would be 'underpaid' by year 2.
I believe this is a ty situation for the Spurs too, since even if they wanted to add extra bonuses after year 2 to 'make up' for that, I don't believe they can under the current CBA structure.
I'll have to see LJC before I believe he can play the wing in the NBA. I imagine that they have Anderson slotted as a part of the future wing rotation, but I don't see Manu playing more than one more season. If the MLE can buy a reliable rotation wing, it would be a good investment IMO. Bigs typically cost more, so I think you would be looking at a project more than the plug and play addition that could be available at the wing positions.
Speaking of reliable rotation wing...I really wish we would've gotten Aminu. He has a player option after this season I believe - if he declines it, I wouldn't mind spending some of the MLE on him. He's an excellent defender and one of the best rebounding wings in the league. Kawhi/Aminu on the court at the same time would be crazy.
Obviously he's mediocre at best offensively, but I feel like we have plenty of shooting on this team.
I'm not sure. Normally, you can't offer bonuses and trade kickers don't matter, since you can't raise a person's salary above the league max outside of the natural five-percent free-agent increase or in the 4.5- and 7.5 percent contract increases. But the "league max" will grow beyond most individual maxes, which should allow those increases to come back. Meaning, that if Kawhi signs a five-year max with a max trade kicker, he should actually some of that money if he gets traded after his second year.
People are also forgetting that there is a new CBA coming in a couple of years. It's very possible that players will not want to risk losing out on guaranteed money by signing only two-year deals (the Parsons situation). If Kawhi doesn't take a one-year deal, I think he takes a five-year deal.
I don't think they'll be a great wing market. Anyone who's good enough to be a sound investment at the MLE is probably keen to wait until 2016 to ink a long term deal. That may not be the case the some of the young, flawed bigs out there (like O'Quinn and Seraphin). I honestly don't see any wing who's going to make sense for $5 Million a year.
Beli has been a bargain at his salary, though his game is more suited to 5th wing than 4th. He's like a better version of Bonner at his position.
I tend to agree with Mel that 3 years plus a player option on year 4 is the sweet spot for Kawhi to get a relatively large payday to insure against a short-term injury while still being able to get that huge contract sooner.
I remember reading about contract renegotiations in the previous CBA. Contracts could be renegotiated upwards but never down. Could the Spurs offer the full 5-year max and leave open the possibility of renegotating the last 4 years up to the new max in 2016?
Probably not. I doubt the Spurs intend to have cap space in 2018-2020. If Leonard is worth as much as he'd have to be to command a raise, then the team would probably be a fringe contender
What I was getting at was this: is it within the rules for the Spurs to tell Kawhi "take the 5-year deal and we'll renegotiate it up in 2016" to maximize their chance that Kawhi actually signs it? Whether that's worthwhile and whether it's possible are different things ofc.
That's exactly what I'm saying. Even if the Spurs wanted to entice Kawhi to sign a full 5 year max deal with some monetary incentives, they can't do that because they can't go over the current max contract value per the current cap figures, even if it's already known that the cap will be substantially higher in the next couple of years. From a player's perspective, a trade kicker doesn't solve the situation at all. He's not in control of the situation and he would still be playing under the same contract that pays him less than new max contract reality.
It's hard to fathom what will transpire when the next CBA negotiations are up, but it's difficult to fathom players taking any less considering the new TV deal, league popularity as a whole and the valuation of the franchises at this point in time.
Lol, everyone would like to have Leonard. I'll file this one in the Capt. Obvious file.
Thanks!! You're right, I misunderstood EN & itzsoweezee posts.
Mick and the boys singing the answer to Boston directly:
Switching back and forth between FOB and serious insider....
50/50
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