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so ok Kawhi has nothing to do with the loss, his struggle against double teams and the 4 TOs is because pop did not surrender with good shooters. Like his poor defense... Must be because of Parker not doing something right
C'mon rob....that's a typical player fan response. "My guy didn't do as bad as Parker did".....c'mon you're better than that.
I agree that +/- is not the best stat.....but I've seen you post Parker's bad +/- games in the game thread probably 20 times. You only use this stat when it benefits your agenda.
Kawhi is the better player than Parker. Anybody who argues this is probably just trolling. He's younger, faster, more explosive, plays better D, etc. Is it Parker's fault that Kawhi is taking 2-3 seconds and throwing lazy passes when he is being doubled? You see the double team coming.....move the ball quickly. It's not rocket science. Is it Parker's fault that Diaw and Green can't throw the ball in the Pacific Ocean last night?
You just want Parker to play bad so you can say, "I told you guys so." When 99% of competent Spurs fans already know who the better player is....
I've been one of the biggest Parker defenders on this site before. Not sure what you're getting at. And OP is comparing Kawhi to Parker, what else am I supposed to say? Why would I bring up another player when OP asked why Kawhi wasn't getting the majority of the blame? I'm just comparing the 2 and by the looks of it Kawhi played a better game than Parker. Do you really think I want the Spurs to lose? Come on man. This team is awesome and I hate when they lose. I couldn't even watch the end of the game last night because of the Clippers circle jerk. What I want is for the Spurs to have the best shot at winning no matter who is on the floor.
Nobody is saying he played great. You don't have an argument in saying 'the best player deserves the bulk of the blame' though. Not when he's treated like a complimentary player since the offense is still ran through fat Rique.
You're not a real fan though bc you don't root for a fat, over the hill PG that's dooming the team.
He's not at all treated like a complimentary player. The offense is run through TP because TP traditionally has been the best offensive player and easily the best ball handler on the team. Almost every single offense in the NBA is run through the best ball handler. If Kawhi had better handles, the offense would run through him more. He's no where treated as a complimentary player; not by the coach, not by the media and not by his teammates.
You're not a real fan though bc you don't root for a fat, over the hill PG that's dooming the team.
Of course I have an argument following the same standard you usually use, Kawhi put empty stat line, had the worst +/-, he is the face of the franchise and played crappy defense... See how it's easy tbh ?
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No, you're argument is that Kawhi should receive the blame because of a flawed plus/minus stat. Any non biased observer can see that Kawhi was one of the main reasons the Spurs were even in the game.
I'm not talking about handling the ball. I'm talking about calling plays for him and ensuring he is involved early on. He was fed early and often in the post during the most dominant stretch of the winning streak (Den, OKC, GS). All I saw yesterday in the 1st Qtr was a bunch of loops to set up Enrique for his dribble dribble dribble or two man game with Timmy/Boris.
No, it is ran through their best offensive player. We used to do it through tim ing duncan. That is the same for mostly every ing team in the nba. I think you have best ball handler and best offensive player mixed.
Lets also blames kawhis early season struggles solely on him and not his ing teammates that couldn't give him the space. I swear that brazil guy is a ing joke.
TP got plenty of good shots with that play calling. The fact he missed doesn't mean the play calling was bad. Kawhi is not treated like a secondary player - you can only run so much offense with someone that has average ball handling and passing ability. Kawhi has made great strides there, but the Spurs offense is no longer low post oriented like it was with prime Duncan.
The fact is, whether it's early or late, Kawhi ended up with more shots than Parker. The Spurs normally spread the shooting around with very rare nights where one person's shot numbers far outweigh the next guys. Also, you can't feed a guy when a team is making a concerted effort to take him out of the game plan (i.e. doubling Kawhi really hard). Normally, defenses should be forced to pay for such aggressive strategies, but Kawhi struggled to do anything positive out of the double teams and had numerous turn overs.
It's not all on Kawhi, but he had a rough game. Whether it was worse than TP's? I'd say no, but again, they both contributed to the issues for various reasons and it seems like an exercise in splitting hairs with the blame game in this particular game.
How can you write that with a straight face ?
you are a ing joke... The +/- is your favorite stat, it feeds most of diarrhea during game threads and post game threads
don't ever come back with a +/- argument
In this very thread Beto gives us a +/- stat to show how parker sucks but now it is biased
what a jke
No - it's typically that in this NBA, with very limited post players, the best offensive player is usually the best ball handler. Spurs, it's less running the offense through any one person vs moving the ball to get best shots and pretty evenly distrubuted shots. It's why the Spurs don't even have a player in the top 20 with regards to usage rate.
The term "ball-handler" and "running the offense" have become a lot more intertwined.
I have never use plus/minus when it comes to Parker as his is almost always positive. You need to take your meds bruh.
In this thread because that's the metric that you're using.
Lets also blames kawhis early season struggles solely on him and not his ing teammates that couldn't give him the space. I swear that brazil guy is a ing joke.
I don't think you know what your talking about, but keep going.
Might as well add that reason as an excuse for his playLets also blames kawhis early season struggles solely on him and not his ing teammates that couldn't give him the space. I swear that brazil guy is a ing joke.
He has pink eye, it's not fair. Do you expect Stevie Wonder to shoot threes?
Stooop you bully! It's obvious the bruise on his hand is greatly affecting him
Pop needs to set him up for success and he isn't doing it. But he's not a system player!
He's not getting the amount of shots he deserves, even though he leads the team in FGA
He's scored 10 or less in 7 of the last 9 games. Hasn't done much since he came back outside of a good stretch in early March. At what point is missing some of those shots just the new norm for him? I'm also obviously not advocating shifting the offense to the offense of the prime Duncan days. The first option should always be team ball, but after that the main individual option should be Kawhi not Enrique. That's how it was during that dominant stretch of the winning streak where Rique mostly just stayed out of the way.
Also as I've been saying FGAs is an overly simplistic way to look at things. Kawhi is a physical specimen that can get his shot off pretty easily, Enrique is an over the hill PG. The fact that Kawhi was able to get more shots off doesn't change the fact that the offensive attack was centered around Rique.
He had a great game as stats show and he only shot the ball 12 times.
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