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    Why wouldn't be a way? Cap is supposed to go up. Patty becomes an expiring deal. I don't buy the Aldridge/Splitter front-court is the only way narrative.
    I think that's right for next season assuming Duncan returns. Aldrige adds more than Splitter over the course of a season and more so factoring in that Splitter is injury prone.

    But after TD retires, it would be nice to have an Aldridge/Splitter front court with a healthy Splitter. When he's on, he's a legit force (or mini force). But the realty is that he gets hurt way too often and it's maybe a big assumption that
    he will ever have long stretches of injury free playing time.

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    Hoopshype has a blurb about Tiago being made available. http://hoopshype.com/rumors/r/5T0K/t...tter-available

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    Why wouldn't be a way? Cap is supposed to go up. Patty becomes an expiring deal. I don't buy the Aldridge/Splitter front-court is the only way narrative.
    The Spurs have an artificially low salary right now, due to Leonard and Green having cap holds much smaller than their expected salaries. While they could probably eek out another max contract, doing so two seasons in a row will cripple their depth (no MLE two years in a row, no Duncan/Manu, no Joseph or Mills). Sure, a Parker/Green/Leonard/Aldridge/and say Horford SL is beast, but there's almost no way to build around them in one season. And they wouldn't have any bench to support Parker's age.

    But what I meant in my post is that Aldridge is only really a huge plus for the Spurs if the team can project Splitter next to him for the next several years. Tiago compliments LA perfectly. LA/some replacement-level center isn't better than replacement-level PF/Splitter. And, it's more expensive.

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    If Spurs get Aldridge it will certainly mean losing Splitter but what do y'all think of trying to snag Kosta Kofous to replace him tbh? Not a huge obviously, but how much would he command this summer, iyo?
    Wouldn't mind that at all. Kofous really blossomed with Memphis. Solid backup big man imo.

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    I understand Aldridge/Splitter fit well together but if getting rid of Tiago is the only way of getting LA you still do it. Not sure why anyone would seriously hesitate to get rid of Splitter after he clearly has shown he can't stay healthy and has failed on the biggest stages at different times in his career. Not trying to overrate LA, I know he has his faults as well but he's still 10x the basketball player as Tiago and the Spurs are going to need someone who can score the ball and create offense on their own.

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    Parker has a no-trade clause in his extension. Get on the phone with the Rockets. Morey miiight just be dumb enough to make a trade. They need a PG badly. (never happening, I know)
    No he has not. Here is why:

    For those asking why Tony Parker did NOT get a no-trade clause in his new deal, it’s because no-trade clauses can’t be added to extensions

    This is Tony Parker’s third successive extension w/Spurs. Third successive time, in other words, San Antonio has kept him off open market

    All six NBA players who have full no-trade clauses had to opt out and get to the open market to get them: Kobe, Duncan, Dirk, KG, Wade, Melo


    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...-deal-why-not/

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    The Spurs have an artificially low salary right now, due to Leonard and Green having cap holds much smaller than their expected salaries. While they could probably eek out another max contract, doing so two seasons in a row will cripple their depth (no MLE two years in a row, no Duncan/Manu, no Joseph or Mills). Sure, a Parker/Green/Leonard/Aldridge/and say Horford SL is beast, but there's almost no way to build around them in one season. And they wouldn't have any bench to support Parker's age.

    But what I meant in my post is that Aldridge is only really a huge plus for the Spurs if the team can project Splitter next to him for the next several years. Tiago compliments LA perfectly. LA/some replacement-level center isn't better than replacement-level PF/Splitter. And, it's more expensive.
    I don't think that's really true. The Spurs would need to land another big in the Splitter price-range next season, which I think could be doable, or at least, it would be worth the gamble if you're gunning to get LA this season.

    I mean, I like Splitter, and I think he would pair well with LA, but his injury history is worrisome, he gives the best cap opening possibility, and provided Tim comes back for another year, he's more expendable than a guy like Diaw.

    Just my impression, tbh...

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    Any scenario in which the Spurs can send a package around Green to Portland for Aldridge/Afflalo. Seems like a desirable option for obvious reasons...

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    I don't think that's really true. The Spurs would need to land another big in the Splitter price-range next season, which I think could be doable, or at least, it would be worth the gamble if you're gunning to get LA this season.

    I mean, I like Splitter, and I think he would pair well with LA, but his injury history is worrisome, he gives the best cap opening possibility, and provided Tim comes back for another year, he's more expendable than a guy like Diaw.

    Just my impression, tbh...
    Diaw is with us next year, correct? I'm thinking the LA deal is going to be the primary deal sought after by the Spurs. Seems the discussion about Splitter staying or going isn't mutually exclusive to the LA signing. The injuries of Tiago were perhaps the biggest reason for our demise so I understand people being skeptical about him. People get hurt. He gets hurt a lot.

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    Diaw is with us next year, correct? I'm thinking the LA deal is going to be the primary deal sought after by the Spurs. Seems the discussion about Splitter staying or going isn't mutually exclusive to the LA signing. The injuries of Tiago were perhaps the biggest reason for our demise so I understand people being skeptical about him. People get hurt. He gets hurt a lot.
    Well, we're working with the premise that TD will likely come back and that the Spurs will pay Kawhi and Danny their money, which would mean the Spurs will have to jettison a contract to have enough to lure LA with a max-deal.

    That entire premise might turn out to be false though, but you know, we're guessing here.

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    I would not give up Diaw, too versatile and durable.

    I also wouldn't give up Green and Splitter for Aflolo and Alridge. Aflolo did squat this year and would be a big downgrade over DG.

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    The Spurs only scored less than 100 twice against the Clips. That was with the offense looking like pure dog . The Spurs need defense.

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    Sign & Trade w/ Memphis:

    MEM receives: Tony Parker, Tiago Splitter, Davis Bertans, 2015 & 2016 1st Round draft pick

    SAS receives: Mike Conley, Marc Gasol


    Problem solved.

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    Not sure what is the selling point for SA to appeal to LA when the only valuable asset is KL and KL needs a max contract. Tiago is always injured and TP sucks. Others are either role players or free agents. I don't see why LA would leave Portland when he could sign a bigger contract there and ask for trade subsequently even if he doesn't want to stay.

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    Not sure what is the selling point for SA to appeal to LA when the only valuable asset is KL and KL needs a max contract. Tiago is always injured and TP sucks. Others are either role players or free agents. I don't see why LA would leave Portland when he could sign a bigger contract there and ask for trade subsequently even if he doesn't want to stay.
    I agree.

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    Tony Parker is not getting traded, so any scenario that includes Tony getting traded you can forget about right now.

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    Is there a way for the Spurs to sign a big name FA like Aldridge without renouncing Green?

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    Like I've been saying I think Aldridge ultimately ends up in Dallas. He's from there, already lives there in the offseason, would be close to family back in Texas, no state income tax, could see his son more often, they can offer him a max contract, etc.

    That just seems like the most logical place for him, tbh. Most things point that direction.

    Also, I know things seem to be pointing towards him leaving, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if he stayed in Portland either. Once it starts getting closer to signing period, he may very well reconsider. $30 Million is a lot of loot to leave on the table, and he has a chance to be "the best Blazer ever," if that means anything to him. He won't win a ring there though.

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    It's going to be a looong offseason, but at least we can all enjoy this, tbh.


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    The Spurs have an artificially low salary right now, due to Leonard and Green having cap holds much smaller than their expected salaries. While they could probably eek out another max contract, doing so two seasons in a row will cripple their depth (no MLE two years in a row, no Duncan/Manu, no Joseph or Mills). Sure, a Parker/Green/Leonard/Aldridge/and say Horford SL is beast, but there's almost no way to build around them in one season. And they wouldn't have any bench to support Parker's age.

    But what I meant in my post is that Aldridge is only really a huge plus for the Spurs if the team can project Splitter next to him for the next several years. Tiago compliments LA perfectly. LA/some replacement-level center isn't better than replacement-level PF/Splitter. And, it's more expensive.
    But doesn't Tim's likely larger than his contract cap hold sort of even things out some there?

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    Not sure what is the selling point for SA to appeal to LA when the only valuable asset is KL and KL needs a max contract. Tiago is always injured and TP sucks. Others are either role players or free agents. I don't see why LA would leave Portland when he could sign a bigger contract there and ask for trade subsequently even if he doesn't want to stay.
    I think the main draw is Pop, RC and Holt. We have had one of the best coach-GM-owner situations in the league for the past 20 years. They have basically built three championship rosters (Robinson, Duncan, ****** - 99 team) (Duncan, Parker, Manu - 02,05,07 teams) (Duncan, Kwahi, Green, ect - 14 team).

    While the obvious constant is Duncan, they have shown an excellent ability to draft players in the latter in the draft (parker, manu, Splitter, Kwahi)(not to mention players who never played for us like Barbosa, Scola, ect). They also have shown an ability to take players no one wanted and maximize their ability (SJax, Green, Diaw).

    While LMA is no Duncan, he probably doesn't think he is far off. He may think "Hey, they built three championship level teams around Duncan, Im sure they can build them around me."

    Or he can stay in Port which haas demonstrated no real ability to do so.
    Last edited by goliath; 05-05-2015 at 03:42 PM.

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    For those that haven't kept up with him, Afflalo is pretty ty nowadays, tbh..I said this prior to the trade, btw, so I'm not just basing it on his disappointing Portland stint..he's a good spot shooter and has a decent post game, but he hasn't been good on D since his 1st year in Denver..

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    But doesn't Tim's likely larger than his contract cap hold sort of even things out some there?
    No. Because the Spurs have 10 days to work out moves. So they can agree with Tim to a new contract and have the best of both worlds. Next off-season (2016), Kawhi's max and Green's contract fully count on the books. That's why this is such a small window. The next one opens up in 2017 unless the Spurs essentially want to keep a bare cupboard next season.

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    It funny that people think the spurs won't trade Splitter or be willing to lose Green for LMA. It all comes down to how the Spurs view LMA. If they think he is a foundation type piece, they will move/lose anyone outside Kwahi or Duncan for him. While I hope they both stay, the Greens and Splitters of the world are replaceable and have been replaced by the Spurs before over the years. The hardest type of player to get is the foundation type players. If trading Splitter gets them the cap room for LMA, Pop and RC will be buying the plane ticket right now. If Green wants money that knocks us out of getting LMA and LMA wants to sign, they let Green go.

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    I wish Gasol would just come to his senses and realize he's never going to win a ring in Memphis, tbh...

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