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    Why not?

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    Has Tony left SA?

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    Restricted free agent you idiot. This had only been discussed all year.

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    Restricted free agent you idiot. This had only been discussed all year.
    I thought he meant long term

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    Restricted free agent you idiot. This had only been discussed all year.

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    Is there a possibly of trading our first and Splitter to move up to the top 12 - 15 picks.

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    Trade Tiago and be prepared for the Grizz owning the Spurs again.
    +1

    Makes no sense getting Aldridge if we are getting rid of Tiago simple as that.

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    I don't see any way that we can keep Duncan, Splitter and Bobo and add Aldridge. We're not a big market with tv money or the Nyets with unlimited rubles...

    Duncan is mandatory if he wants to play. Splitter is awesome when healthy and Bobo is too much of a mismatch to let either go unless they want to move on. Lamarcus would be great to add but not at the expense of one of the others, imo.

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    Asik went for the 18th overall pick. The Rockets didn't pay to move him. They did pay to move Lin, however. You're right that Splitter has positive value. But he has a ton to the Spurs as well. They aren't paying a pick to Philly to take him when a team like Boston has a TE they'd use to absorb him for free.
    Forgot Boston has the trade exception from the Rondo deal. They should be all over Splitter should the Spurs need the cap space. Wonder what the Spurs would be able to get back in the deal, if anything (with backs against the wall). Lots of time before this will shake itself out.

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    I mentioned this before, but a Splitter to Atlanta for the 15th pick makes sense for both teams. Not just because Splitter played for Bud. He would be the 3rd big man and can play with either Milsap and Horford for around 20 mpg. His best season came when he started the season off the bench.

    Spurs would shed about $7 million heading into the off season (including the cost of the 15th pick). Potentially having two 1st rounders [assuming they'd be able to keep the 26th pick] in never a bad thing for the Spurs (last time we got Kawhi and Cojo).

    Atanta would still have around $17.5 million to resign Milsap and Carrol (they could move Scott to clear out around $21 million) They'd upgrade their front court with Splitter.
    They can't trade Splitter at the draft, because they won't know at that point whether Aldridge is signing with them or not.

    I think the Hawks would be more interested in Diaw than Splitter. Budenholzer is obsessed with shooting to the point where he never plays Horford, an elite mid range shooter, as an offensive PF (rarely as a defensive one, too).

    The Bucks appear to be the best fit. They not only need a starting center, but could send back an inexpensive backup, Plumlee. A secondary asset would obviously be needed, such as a future pick swap based on certain conditions.

    I still think Diaw makes more sense and is more likely to be traded than Splitter, if Aldridge signs. But I see the argument for trading Splitter: He'd more than likely fetch a better asset(s) and he's less durable.

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    Trade Splitter for Anthony Davis!!!!! That'll work right?

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    Duncan/Aldridge/Splitter is a much better big rotation than Duncan/Aldridge/Diaw. Unless the Spurs have an awesome plan for a backup center, there's no way I'd rather have Boris.
    I don't follow your logic. Aldridge is more similar to Splitter, hence Aldridge would be essentially replacing Splitter. Diaw is a very different player, as we know, he's a pure power forward (not a PF/C). So doesn't it make more sense to trade like for like?

    Besides, Diaw is just a better player. So yes I'd rather keep Diaw.

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    If Duncan comes back and Aldridge picks SA he's gone, otherwise Diaw will more than likely be moved.
    Keep Diaw over Splitter, that's a no-brainer.

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    I don't even know where to go with that one.
    Yeah no , I don't think Matt Barnes means what tholdren thinks it means.

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    Makes a lot of sense to prioritize retaining Diaw, especially if Manu is retiring. I actually suspect Diaw is in the near untouchable tier. He's extremely talented and versatile, very difficult to replace a player like that. He's also on a reasonable deal.
    This, the putz has this one right.

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    I don't follow your logic. Aldridge is more similar to Splitter,
    Those two statements explain each other. Splitter and Aldridge are NOTHING alike. And as far as Diaw being the better players, they had a chance to go up against each other last summer. Splitter took Diaw's cookie just like he took LA's.

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    Splitter is not a better overall player than Diaw. Sorry but no. He is three years younger though.

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    Those two statements explain each other. Splitter and Aldridge are NOTHING alike. And as far as Diaw being the better players, they had a chance to go up against each other last summer. Splitter took Diaw's cookie just like he took LA's.
    Except Splitter did no such thing. Brazil won by 2 points, and Huertas was the man of the match for Brazil, dropping 16 pts... Splitter on the other hand had a poor game, with 6/3...

    Diaw was far and away the best French player that game, dropping 15/6/5...

    http://www.fiba.com/basketballworldc...tab=game_story

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    Splitter and Aldridge are NOTHING alike.
    They're both PFCs, whereas Diaw is a pure forward. Hence, Splitter and Aldridge are more similar to each other than either is to Diaw.

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    Except Splitter did no such thing. Brazil won by 2 points, and Huertas was the man of the match for Brazil, dropping 16 pts... Splitter on the other hand had a poor game, with 6/3...

    Diaw was far and away the best French player that game, dropping 15/6/5...

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    That's what you get from box score watching. If you get a chance to watch/rewatch the game, you'll see what I'm talking about. Diaw started off the tourney really well, and during the early parts of that game, he dominated Brazil's front line. But he got shut down as soon as Tiago switched onto him. Because that's what healthy Splitter does. I don't think there's another big in the league that can shut down so many different types of bigs. You don't just replace that.

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    They're both PFCs, whereas Diaw is a pure forward. Hence, Splitter and Aldridge are more similar to each other than either is to Diaw.
    No. Splitter is a center. There's no /PF in there. He's a mobile center, so he can guard power-forwards, like Aldridge. LA is a PF. He's not a center, even though he's big enough to play there. Diaw is a combo-forward who's hefty enough to play the five. I don't know why you consider him a "pure forward" when he's played at every position at some point in his career.

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    No. Splitter is a center. There's no /PF in there. He's a mobile center, so he can guard power-forwards, like Aldridge. LA is a PF. He's not a center, even though he's big enough to play there. Diaw is a combo-forward who's hefty enough to play the five. I don't know why you consider him a "pure forward" when he's played at every position at some point in his career.
    Because he was a small forward for most of his NBA career, and then switched to PF.

    And I consider almost any 7-footer with mobility a PFC. It's not like there's much of a non-arbitrary distinction there anyway, at least not in modern basketball.

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    Because he was a small forward for most of his NBA career, and then switched to PF.
    He was the center for the Suns during his breakout playoff series. He was drafted at PG. He's all over the map. And there's nothing wrong with that.

    And I consider almost any 7-footer with mobility a PFC. It's not like there's much of a non-arbitrary distinction there anyway, at least not in modern basketball.
    That completely ignores skill-sets. Splitter can't play with a traditional center, because he can't shoot well enough. He's also not particularly mobile if he's considered a power-forward. LA doesn't really have the inside game to play the five on either side. They're not similar at all.

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    Diaw should never be used as an NBA center. He's too short. I know Pop has done it, and he was wrong to do it. That's why we lost game 6 2013.

    Point is, Splitter and Aldridge can play center, but Diaw can't (shouldn't).

    And you're supporting my point by commenting on Diaw's versatility. Neither Splitter nor Aldridge are that versatile. Hence, they are more similar to each other than to Diaw.

    Now, whether "similarity" alone justifies letting one go, I'm not sure. You make a good point about Splitter's defense. Maybe we don't want to lose that. But my intuitive judgment is that we should either keep Splitter or go after Aldridge, but not both.
    Last edited by Arcadian; 05-06-2015 at 07:27 PM.

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    That's what you get from box score watching. If you get a chance to watch/rewatch the game, you'll see what I'm talking about. Diaw started off the tourney really well, and during the early parts of that game, he dominated Brazil's front line. But he got shut down as soon as Tiago switched onto him. Because that's what healthy Splitter does. I don't think there's another big in the league that can shut down so many different types of bigs. You don't just replace that.
    No, I did watch the game. That's why what you posted made no sense. Boris had a terrific game, and Splitter was actually pretty darn bad, even though he did score on the overrated Gobert.

    Batum kept jacking up 3s and missing. If not for Boris, that game would've been a blowout win for Brazil.

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