Cavs: Stats prove Lebron is the most clutch playoff shooter since the 2000's ...

[Killakobe81]

3 issues:
1) This is a horrible definition of clutch. Why 5 seconds? Someone made a shot at 5.1 seconds any less clutch?
2) Why shooting percentage? Rebounds, blocks, steals, defense, passes are all integral parts of end game situations.
3) Extremely small sample size.

That said, Kobe seems to come up bottoms in all types of clutch stats though.

It wasnt just shooting %. I think many of yall didnt read the link. the article uses some advanced metrics tied to expected points and assists are factored in as well, IIRC. Not a metrics nerd I use stats as tool not a bible to quote scripture when losing a argument.

Amb you are a smart cookie with metrics but isnt that what the chart says?

And 5 seconds is arbitrary but I think the reasoning was it focused on game-winners and game tying shots if you start going higher it's not truly a single shot since it will lead to a rebound or inbounds play for the other team ...not a true game winner. But I just report I did not dig deep.

[ambchang]

It wasnt just shooting %. I think many of yall didnt read the link. the article uses some advanced metrics tied to expected points and assists are factored in as well, IIRC. Not a metrics nerd I use stats as tool not a bible to quote scripture when losing a argument.

Amb you are a smart cookie with metrics but isnt that what the chart says?

And 5 seconds is arbitrary but I think the reasoning was it focused on game-winners and game tying shots if you start going higher it's not truly a single shot since it will lead to a rebound or inbounds play for the other team ...not a true game winner. But I just report I did not dig deep.

I flew through it, and it only talks about shots, not assists. Does not take into account other aspects. The le of the chart talked specifically about go-ahead shots, so other aspects are out of the picture.

The numbers only talks about a normalized situation of how a player performed as compared to the rest of the league (unweighted), and then against expectations of how that player would perform.

It's also flawed in the sense that if a player shot 62% from the field but is a poor FT shooter (say James Donaldson or Shaq), said shooter is expected to shoot a high percentage, when the reality is that the player will not get the ball because of his poor ability to shoot FTs, and the only reason said player would get the ball is through a broken play, which significantly decreased the FG% of the player.

[Kidd K]

I don't understand the list. I'm seeing Duncan as a "second to worst" yet he has the same eFG% as the 3rd best guy.

Meanwhile guys with 0% FG% are rated higher, and people with only 1-3 attempts are loading the top of the list.

List is pointless imo except for the players with lots of attempts. I also think the "5 seconds left where game tying shots don't count" aspect of it really pigeon-holes what a "clutch shot" is. I'd like to see that expanded to the final 30-120 seconds of close games (+/- 3 points), to get a more accurate idea.