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LeBron > Kirby PERIOD

Kobe: 5

LeBron: 2

, he had 1 while you sold a bunch of wampum. Then you went back to 4 & he went to 2.

[Malik Hairston]

The Finals will be the same as last year, though..limited team vs. historically great team, Warriors win in 5, vanilla, cliche-using fans criticise LeBron for losing with a team that wouldn't have sniffed the Finals if you had replaced him with any other player in the league..

[djohn2oo8]

Eastern Conference is probably a little better than last year, yet the Cavs were a bottom-feeder in 2014..the Heat couldn't even make the playoffs, this year, despite adding Whiteside, Dragic and Deng..

LeBron's impact is unheard of, tbh..

The Heat's playoff chances went away when Bosh went down. Don't act like that had anything to do with the conference being better

[z0sa]

LeBron is definitely the #2 best post Jordan, followed by Shaq, then Kobe.

[Malik Hairston]

The Heat's playoff chances went away when Bosh went down. Don't act like that had anything to do with the conference being better

Uhhh..a team that added Dragic, Whiteside and Deng to Wade couldn't make the playoffs vs. The below .500 Celtics and Nets? stop, man, so vanilla..

Dragic
Wade
Deng
Anybody
Whiteside

Or

Marcus Smart
Avery Bradley
Evan Turner
Brandon Bass
Tyler Zeller

[RsxPiimp]

Easy work for GS. Warriors in 6. After June, Were gonna talk about why Lebron is not on Jordan's level.

[Clipper Nation]

Easy work for GS. Warriors in 6. After June, Were gonna talk about why Lebron is not on Jordan's level.

And Floyd was supposed to be "easy work" for Manny

[RsxPiimp]

And Floyd was supposed to be "easy work" for Manny

Seriously tho, Cavs will be outmatched.

[Malik Hairston]

Seriously tho, Cavs will be outmatched.

Can't really see how the Cavs would win..LeBron played as well as he could in last year's Finals, offensively, yet the Heat still got destroyed..Cavs without Irving are worse than last year's Miami team, and the Warriors can get hot just as easily as last year's Spurs..

[djohn2oo8]

Uhhh..a team that added Dragic, Whiteside and Deng to Wade couldn't make the playoffs vs. The below .500 Celtics and Nets? stop, man, so vanilla..

Dragic
Wade
Deng
Anybody
Whiteside

Or

Marcus Smart
Avery Bradley
Evan Turner
Brandon Bass
Tyler Zeller

Wade missed 20 games. Whiteside was nothing but a flash in the pan. And Tragic is overrated as . You should stop

[ElNono]

This is why he realistically should be the League MVP every year, tbh

[~O~]

LeBron is number 2 at the most and at the least.

Lets see.......is that going to be 5 straight finals appearances?

[~O~]

and 6 finals appearances total. That's 6 eastern conference championships and 2 les.

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and 6 finals appearances total. That's 6 eastern conference championships and 2 les.

It'd a been 1 le if the Duncans were still hitched.

[DPG21920]

The Heat's playoff chances went away when Bosh went down. Don't act like that had anything to do with the conference being better

Bosh was dealing with injuries (same as Wade) with Lebron there and that never stopped them from reaching the finals. They added Deng (whom so many consider an elite SF), Dragic (whom many consider a top 10 PG) and Whiteside (helps negate bosh some) and they couldn't even make the playoffs. In the East.

Lebron loses Varejao and replaces him with a middling player in Mozgov, adds JR Smith (whom many consider a below average chucker with a terrible IQ and driving record), Shump (whom many consider to be an overrated defender that can't shoot) and then loses Love in the first round and Kyrie has been hobbled and they are 2 games away from the finals.

Lebron's impact is undeniable.

[Malik Hairston]

Wade missed 20 games. Whiteside was nothing but a flash in the pan. And Tragic is overrated as . You should stop

Wade missed more games last year.. , Bosh even missed an entire series and a half in the ing playoffs and LeBron still won

Um, again, look at their compe ion..they didn't even have to be good to make the playoffs, all they had to do was be a below average team..

And wow, those are quite the excuses..Whiteside isn't a flash in the pan, no, and Dragic is a really solid PG, sorry..certainly better than Marcus Smart and Tyler Zeller..

[DPG21920]

lol no

With the exception of the Cavs, who wouldn't 1-7 in the West beat in the East?

[100%duncan]

It'd a been 1 le if the Duncans were still hitched.

Man the only schtick you got going and still spursfan can easily say Duncan is the best post-Jordan and nary a person with atleast half a brain would disagree.

[djohn2oo8]

Bosh was dealing with injuries (same as Wade) with Lebron there and that never stopped them from reaching the finals. They added Deng (whom so many consider an elite SF), Dragic (whom many consider a top 10 PG) and Whiteside (helps negate bosh some) and they couldn't even make the playoffs. In the East.

Lebron loses Varejao and replaces him with a middling player in Mozgov, adds JR Smith (whom many consider a below average chucker with a terrible IQ and driving record), Shump (whom many consider to be an overrated defender that can't shoot) and then loses Love in the first round and Kyrie has been hobbled and they are 2 games away from the finals.

Lebron's impact is undeniable.

Did Bosh have a serious injury that ended his season before? The Heat were in the playoff race before he went down. And at Deng being considered elite. He played pretty terrible defense this year. (DRting = 109) Dragic only played in 26 games. And his defense was worse than Deng's. (110)

[baseline bum]

The Heat's playoff chances went away when Bosh went down. Don't act like that had anything to do with the conference being better

They were the exact seed they finished as at the allstar break when Bosh shut it down for the season.

[DPG21920]

Did Bosh have a serious injury that ended his season before? And at Deng being considered elite. He played pretty terrible defense this year. (DRting = 109) Dragic only played in 26 games. And his defense was worse than Deng's. (110)

Your argument makes no sense. Just because those players like Dragic/Wade/Deng/Whiteside couldn't win without Lebron doesn't change the fact they are all widely considered very good players. That only proves Lebron's point more.

I remember people (Houston fans) begging for Dragic back, but now he sucks ?

[DPG21920]

Also, do you know how many games Wade/Bosh missed over the years with Lebron?

So basically, the argument is the Whiteside/Dragic/Deng are now worse than Jr Smith/Shumpert/Mozgov

[Clipper Nation]

Seriously tho, Cavs will be outmatched.

The haters were saying the exact same things about OKC a few years ago, then LeBron single-handedly whooped them so badly that Durant literally went crying to his mommy.

[Darius McCrary]

Even with an injured Irving I think their roster is a lot better than the one he took to the Finals in 2007.

Undoubtedly. However I think the East is weaker this year than it was in 2007. It shouldn't have been, but injuries made it so.

[djohn2oo8]

Your argument makes no sense. Just because those players like Dragic/Wade/Deng/Whiteside couldn't win without Lebron doesn't change the fact they are all widely considered very good players. That only proves Lebron's point more.

I remember people (Houston fans) begging for Dragic back, but now he sucks ?

You think that lineup who.hadn't played much time together collectively was good enough to make the playoffs in the East?